---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Avery, I see that Ron replied with prices. Below are a couple of posts from Ted Sambell and one from John Minor several months ago when I made inquiries. We went with the shorter legs and Renner casters and don't regret it. The original Steinway B casters were creasing the new stage floor terribly. We don't have that problem at all with the Renner casters. The problem for us with a Jansen concert grand truck would have been that, if the piano just needed to be moved a few feet, would they really go off stage to get the truck for that short move? In time, the stage floor would have suffered quite a bit from these short moves. By the way, we sold 3 of the 6 brand new original Steinway ebony legs that were left over when we replaced them with short legs, so we still have 3 for sale. These will fit models B & D. John Baird Millikin University Decatur, Illinois > Darnell casters are available from Schaff Piano Supply Co. 451 Oakwood Rd.. > Lake Zurich, Illinois, U.S.A. 60047-1516. As there are a variety of styles, > I suggest you send for their catalogue; I believe there is a modest charge > for it. > The wheels are much as you described, with a ball bearing on top for > swivelling, The stems plug into a socket which has to be screwed into the > leg. You may have to first plug the leg hole then rebore a smaller hole for > the socket. The caster stem is then just pushed in and tapped home. This > makes the casters easily replaceable in case of damage; just pry the old > one out and plug in a new one. Darnells are excellent quality and the > design lends itself to piano applications very well. But if you are > considering putting them on a large concert grand, it would be better to go > to the heavy duty casters supplied by Renner. These are large dual wheeled > casters which require an inch or so to be cut off the legs. They are far > superoir to putting the piano on a dolly. > > I know the Renner casters are expensive; they also have a somewhat cheaper > aluminum type which is also satisfactory, but I would really dig your heels > in on this. Your university has obviously put a great deal of effort and > resources into their building and equipment. Not to go the extra mile for a > couple of thousand seems "penny wise and dollar foolish'. In our > experience, our pianos get moved frequently, and we found that when they > were mounted on a stage truck they never go back quite the same as when > they are removed. This is because even if the bolts are tight, the arms > shift out of position when carried, because of the very heavy weight. As a > result, replacing the piano on the truck invariably results in damage to > the bottom of the legs. Our support staff detests them, as I am sure most > movers do. We put the Renners on all our large pianos and have never > regretted it. Hamburg S&S D's come with the aluminum casters already > installed, (these also have locks). If you are acquiring a new New Yok D it > might be possible to get them to put thse on as an option. The brass ones > with the locks are superb, beautifully machined. a set of three has two > with locks and one without. > > We use the large brass mother-of-all-casters on our performance pianos at > the University of Illinois. We ended up buying the shorter legs, costing > around $275 or so for each. Beats trying to shorten well-proportioned > legs! > Avery Todd wrote: > List, > > Someone recently posted about installing new legs with the > large brass wheels but I can't remember who. Does that > person, or anyone else, know an approximate price for a set > of those? > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/caut.php/attachments/d5/13/31/f9/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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