I dunno, but I've used self-adhesive papers for travelling for about ten years, and have noticed no problems when re-travelling the same pianos. No more problem peeling it off if needed than the brown paper stuff. And seems quite stable to me. I started using it when George Defebaugh recommended it in a class - said he used UPS labels. I had previously used sandpaper (lots of different thicknesses available) - and hated the fact that it disappeared the next time you had to remove that shank. Then used the brown paper with dry glue - but here in my part of the country, mother nature will never get around to sticking it on. I had to lick it, which was a pain. Masking tape is another story - doesn't even work well for its stated purpose, and leaves you with a mess. But I've followed techs who used it for travelling, and it wasn't ever that much of a problem - sometimes I have to scrape paper and glue off with a pocket knife, but that happens to some extent with any tape. So I find I'm happy enough with self adh stuff. To get a peel started, use something already cut like labels. Leave an overhang of the slick stuff (backing paper) of about 1/8" and it's easy to separate. I use bumperstickers, address labels, whatever is around. Just this afternoon I'm travelling a stack I last did 5 to 10 years ago. As usual, I'm removing as much as I'm putting on - a lot of it paper that was put on before my last travelling. The self-adhesive I've found that I put on last time was right where I put it and seemed likely to stay there. And showed no sign of deterioration. I hope the shanks and flanges are replaced long before another 20 years have gone by. FWIW. Regards, Fred Sturm University of New Mexico --On Thursday, June 5, 2003 11:13 AM -0400 Ed Sutton <ed440@mindspring.com> wrote: > Mary- > The "problem"...if it is a problem...with adhesive tapes and papers is > that the adhesive may change over time. It may just disappear, letting > the paper fall off if you move the flange. Or it may turn into a greasy > goo that gums up the area and lets the paper slide around. Or it may > harden into a brittle mess that must be chipped off. > (I get these worries from having worked with prints and drawings many > years ago. Adhesive tapes are forbidden in the print vault!.) > It probably won't be a big deal in pianos, but the conservative approach > is to use gummed paper. > I dampen it slightly before inserting or attaching it because I prefer > having it attached to the flange. It comes off easily with a pass of a > pointed exacto knife. > I do think that 50 years down the pike the gummed tape will be virtually > like it is today. For absolute permanence I suppose you'd have to use the > flaps of envelopes made of PermaLife paper. > Ed S. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Smith" <marysmith@mail.utexas.edu> > To: "College and University Technicians" <caut@ptg.org> > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:50 AM > Subject: Re: emergency travel paper > > >> This brings up a question I have always had about this: Is there a reason >> not to use self-adhesive paper? I have used file folder labels, with >> self-stick backing, for years. I can cut them into strips of varying > widths >> and easily carry them in my tool kit. I also cut them crosswise and use >> as service records for myself inside the piano. Is it a bad idea to use >> this type of sticker on flanges? If so, why? >> >> Mary >> >> At 09:55 PM 6/4/2003 -0700, you wrote: >> > At 10:35 AM 6/4/2003 -0600, Roger wrote: >> >> The gummed paper will not stick until mother nature has had time to >> >> work. You are not meant to wet it. The advantage of gummed paper it >> >> stays put if you have to remove the hammer shank etc at a later date. >> >> Regards Roger >> > >> > >> > You know, if old-fashioned mucilage glue is still available (remember >> > glass bottle with the red rubber tip with the slot in it from grade >> > school?), it should be easy to choose a paper or papers of appropriate >> > thickness, spread the glue on it, let dry, and then chop to size. >> > >> > I still have about 1/2 roll of the old brown packing tape, and some old >> > postage stamp ends and margins. But stamps now are all that >> > self-adhesive type. My feeling is that the old water-based stickum is >> > more stable over time, and less likely to fall off when one removes >> > shanks for repinning, > etc. >> > >> > Susan >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >> > > _______________________________________________ > caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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