emergency travel paper

Fred Sturm fssturm@unm.edu
Thu, 05 Jun 2003 15:46:13 -0600


	I dunno, but I've used self-adhesive papers for travelling for about ten 
years, and have noticed no problems when re-travelling the same pianos. No 
more problem peeling it off if needed than the brown paper stuff. And seems 
quite stable to me. I started using it when George Defebaugh recommended it 
in a class - said he used UPS labels. I had previously used sandpaper (lots 
of different thicknesses available) - and hated the fact that it 
disappeared the next time you had to remove that shank. Then used the brown 
paper with dry glue - but here in my part of the country, mother nature 
will never get around to sticking it on. I had to lick it, which was a 
pain.
	Masking tape is another story - doesn't even work well for its stated 
purpose, and leaves you with a mess. But I've followed techs who used it 
for travelling, and it wasn't ever that much of a problem - sometimes I 
have to scrape paper and glue off with a pocket knife, but that happens to 
some extent with any tape.
	So I find I'm happy enough with self adh stuff. To get a peel started, use 
something already cut like labels. Leave an overhang of the slick stuff 
(backing paper) of about 1/8" and it's easy to separate. I use 
bumperstickers, address labels, whatever is around.
	Just this afternoon I'm travelling a stack I last did 5 to 10 years ago. 
As usual, I'm removing as much as I'm putting on - a lot of it paper that 
was put on before my last travelling. The self-adhesive I've found that I 
put on last time was right where I put it and seemed likely to stay there. 
And showed no sign of deterioration. I hope the shanks and flanges are 
replaced long before another 20 years have gone by.
FWIW.
Regards,
Fred Sturm
University of New Mexico

--On Thursday, June 5, 2003 11:13 AM -0400 Ed Sutton <ed440@mindspring.com> 
wrote:

> Mary-
> The "problem"...if it is a problem...with adhesive tapes and papers is
> that the adhesive may change over time.  It may just disappear, letting
> the paper fall off if you move the flange. Or it may turn into a greasy
> goo that gums up the area and lets the paper slide around.  Or it may
> harden into a brittle mess that must be chipped off.
> (I get these worries from having worked with prints and drawings many
> years ago.  Adhesive tapes are forbidden in the print vault!.)
> It probably won't be a big deal in pianos, but the conservative approach
> is to use gummed paper.
> I dampen it slightly before inserting or attaching it because I prefer
> having it attached to the flange. It comes off easily with a pass of a
> pointed exacto knife.
> I do think that 50 years down the pike the gummed tape will be virtually
> like it is today.  For absolute permanence I suppose you'd have to use the
> flaps of envelopes made of PermaLife paper.
> Ed S.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mary Smith" <marysmith@mail.utexas.edu>
> To: "College and University Technicians" <caut@ptg.org>
> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:50 AM
> Subject: Re: emergency travel paper
>
>
>> This brings up a question I have always had about this: Is there a reason
>> not to use self-adhesive paper? I have used file folder labels, with
>> self-stick backing, for years. I can cut them into strips of varying
> widths
>> and easily carry them in my tool kit. I also cut them crosswise and use
>> as service records for myself inside the piano. Is it a bad idea to use
>> this type of sticker on flanges? If so, why?
>>
>> Mary
>>
>> At 09:55 PM 6/4/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>> > At 10:35 AM 6/4/2003 -0600, Roger wrote:
>> >>   The gummed paper will not stick until mother nature has had time to
>> >> work.  You are not meant to wet it.  The advantage of gummed paper it
>> >> stays put if you have to remove the hammer shank etc at a later date.
>> >> Regards Roger
>> >
>> >
>> > You know, if old-fashioned mucilage glue is still available (remember
>> > glass bottle with the red rubber tip with the slot in it from grade
>> > school?), it should be easy to choose a paper or papers of appropriate
>> > thickness, spread the glue on it, let dry, and then chop to size.
>> >
>> > I still have about 1/2 roll of the old brown packing tape, and some old
>> > postage stamp ends and margins. But stamps now are all that
>> > self-adhesive type. My feeling is that the old water-based stickum is
>> > more stable over time, and less likely to fall off when one removes
>> > shanks for repinning,
> etc.
>> >
>> > Susan
>> >
>> >
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