Schaff Tuning Levers - slap tuning

Isaac sur Noos oleg-i@noos.fr
Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:29:25 +0100


Jeff,

may I propose you to buy the (cheap" Yamaha tuning hammer without
extension. it comes with 3 heads, is light enough and the tips can be
baught separately when worn. I use mine till 3 years without the need
to change nothing (and I leaved the heavy Jahn's lever home)

beside, as recently I've became accurate enough with a "slapping"
method, may be I will use the tips faster - but I can (roughly) tune a
little grand in 20 min then so the method is interesting.

I use to slap a very little  toward the pinblock to unlock the tuning
pin, and, because of the fast coming back, the settling looks very
good.

Now I'll not say that the string have all the necessary time to render
at the bridge....

Do some of you use that kind of karate method ?


Best regards.


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> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org]De la part de
> Jeff Tanner
> Envoye : jeudi 6 novembre 2003 16:09
> A : College Technicians
> Objet : Schaff Tuning Levers
>
>
> Hi all,
> I'm wondering if anyone else has ever encountered the problem with
> Schaff Tuning levers that I have.  I recently ordered a #16 nylon
> handle extension lever for my student assistant.  He's
> buying it for
> his own personal tool, so it ought to be something that
> will last him a
> while.
>
> The problem I've had is that, besides the sloppy fit of the tip on
> tuning pins I've fussed about before, the threads on the shaft and
> inside the head somehow don't work together they way they
> should.  When
> you first use it, the head begins working itself loose from
> the shaft,
> and continues to do so after you continue retightening it.
> Soon, the
> threads on the tip of the shaft have become scarred up, and
> inside the
> head as well.
>
> It is not a cross-threading problem.  It seems to have more
> to do with
> the tapering of the threads not matching up, so that the tip of the
> shaft tightens down, but the head is not tight.  The
> threads on the tip
> of the shaft simply grind away into the head.  It gets so
> bad that you
> can't use it, and it starts happening with the first piano you tune.
>
> This has been a real problem with every Schaff tuning lever
> I've ever
> used.  I own another Schaff lever (#6) I bought about 10
> years ago I've
> never been able to use because of this problem (and the tip
> problem).
> I complained to them about it then, and they replaced it, but they
> wanted to act like I'd cross threaded the head onto the shaft.  But
> that is not the problem.  We had an apprentice model (#8)
> at my alma
> mater for the students to use and it did exactly the same thing.
>
> Anybody else seen this? or am I doing something wrong?  It
> has never
> occurred with the APSCO hammers I bought.  But I can't buy
> from APSCO
> anymore.  What to do about it?  If I send it back, they'll
> just replace
> it with another one which will do the same thing.  I went down that
> road with my Schaff lever 10 years ago.  And there's no
> other domestic
> tuning hammer manufacturer that an apprentice can afford to
> buy from,
> and the imports cost twice as much.
>
> Oh, this doesn't include the fact that they increased the
> price of this
> hammer by more than 25% last month (a week before I ordered
> this one).
>
> But I mainly wanted to find out if I'm the only one having
> this problem
> before I contact Schaff about it.
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>
> Jeff Tanner, RPT
> School Of Music
> University of South Carolina
>
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