Boston Symphony at 442 or New England Conservatory Tech program? David I. ----- Original message ----------------------------------------> From: Mark Dierauf <mark@nhpianos.com> To: <caut@ptg.org> Received: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 19:09:00 -0400 Subject: RE: A 440 Hz Standard >Interesting - when I went through the New England Conservatory tech >school in the late 70's they were tuning to 442. I guess it's the pitch >du jour. >- Mark >-----Original Message----- >From: dabell58@earthlink.net [mailto:dabell58@earthlink.net] >Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 1:56 PM >To: caut@ptg.org >Subject: Re: A 440 Hz Standard >Dear Friends, >So can a string instrument. >Boston Symphony tunes to A441. It always seems to me that this >difference >(between A440 and A441) would be masked by the string players' >intentional >vibrato, but what do I know, when I got to North Bennet I thought I knew >how to tune because I had been tuning string instruments for 50 years. >Not >so. >Regards, >Dorrie Bell >(PTG associate and also a string player) >Original Message: >----------------- >From: Don A. Gilmore eromlignod@kc.rr.com >Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:23:30 -0500 >To: caut@ptg.org >Subject: Re: A 440 Hz Standard >A wind instrument can be tuned to anything you like. >Don >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Gary Mushlin" <gmushlin@mindspring.com> >To: "College and University Technicians" <caut@ptg.org> >Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 10:46 AM >Subject: Re: A 440 Hz Standard >> It has been called to my attention that wind instruments are now being >> built to A-442. Does anyone have any any information to confirm this? >> Are all wind instruments being built at A-442, or just a select group? >> Or maybe my information is wrong. >> >> This certainly would complicate the problem. >> >> Sincerely, >> Gary Mushlin, MME, RPT >> >> >> On Monday, April 12, 2004, at 10:03 AM, stephen kabat wrote: >> >> > Jim - I tune in Cleveland, Ohio, and the Cleveland Orchestra tunes >to >> > A-440. >> > I also had the opportunity recently to ask the head tuner at the >> > Juillard School in NYC what they tuned to, and he told me that the >head >> > of the school wanted A-441. From the way the tech described the >> > situation, it seems to me that he simply accepted the >administrator's >> > decision rather than make waves. I can understand that, sortof. >Having >> > said that, though, it seems to me that there really is a confusion >in >> > the minds of musicians and orchestra administrators between what >> > constitutes pitch and what constitutes timbre. Several years ago, >the >> > principal violist of the Philadelphia orchestra came here to do some >> > recording with our piano faculty head, and he wanted our piano >raised >> > to >> > 442, because that's what he was used to in Philly. I told him(with >> > flame >> > suit at the ready!!) that we tuned to 440 because if it was good >> > enough >> > for George Szell it was good enough for me! He was surprised that >the >> > Cleveland Orchestra tuned to 440; he thought it tuned to 442. I >> > assured >> > him that no, the Cleveland Orch. tuned to 440, thank you very much. >> > Sorry for the length of this post, but this topic is something >> > that gets my goat. Why is this (accepting standard pitch) so hard? >I >> > wish someone would write a scholarly article, couched in the >> > appropriate >> > ivory-tower legalize, that would convince these people to leave the >> > pitch at 440 and tell the string players to deal with it. Maybe Owen >> > Jorgensen or someone else has already done so, and we could mail the >> > Administrators our thoughts. >> > A Petition, as it were. >> > Regards, Steve Kabat >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf >Of >> > James Ellis >> > Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 10:08 AM >> > To: caut@ptg.org >> > Subject: A 440 Hz Standard >> > >> > The National Symphony Orchestra from Washington DC is giving a >concert >> > in >> > Oak Ridge TN on April 23. Their manager has informed the ORCMA >manager >> > in >> > Oak Ridge that the piano must be tuned to A 442, and they even sent >> > general >> > instructions about how and when to do it. I'm just wondering: What >> > orchestras are there out there that play at various different >pitches >> > other >> > than A=440 Hz, and what are those pitches? If 442 is better than >440, >> > why >> > then is 443 not better than 442, or 444, 445, 446, or even 447 not a >> > lot >> > better than any of the former? Once upon a time, I'm told, a yard >was >> > equal to the distance between the king's nose and the tip of his >> > outstretched finger. I'm glad we got beyond that. Whatever >happened >> > to >> > the idea of standards, anyway? It seems to me that some people just >> > have >> > to be different. >> > >> > Sincerely, Jim Ellis >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >_______________________________________________ >caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >mail2web - Check your email from the web at >http://mail2web.com/ . >_______________________________________________ >caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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