Forgot to ad....The whiter the glue, the lower the fat content and the better the quality. Good glue is almost white like a manila folder, not brown like peanut butter. I get mine from Pianotek along with Urea. Lance Lafargue, RPT LAFARGUE PIANOS New Orleans Chapter, PTG 985.72P.IANO llafargue@charter.net -----Original Message----- From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of llafargue Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2004 6:43 AM To: ilvey@sbcglobal.net; 'College and University Technicians' Subject: RE: hot hide glue wash I agree David. Also, I believe the idea of sizing is very important (white glue won't). The whole mortise and cloth is covered in glue and after drying, every area is smooth and flat for low friction. I would reread articles. I was taught to get glue to a consistency where when it drips back into the pot, the drop kind of sits on top for a second. It takes a while before you find the right thickness, then need to keep glue covered and occasionally add water to keep it there. Too thick, it strings and gets messy, too thin and it wicks too deep into the cloth and comes through to cause noise against the key pins. I get it just thin enough not to string and be messy. Also don't forget the use of Urea helps with work/drying time and after drying, following with a key bushing iron smooths any inconsistencies. Lance Lafargue, RPT LAFARGUE PIANOS New Orleans Chapter, PTG 985.72P.IANO llafargue@charter.net -----Original Message----- From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of David Ilvedson Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2004 3:00 AM To: caut@ptg.org Subject: RE: hot hide glue wash That's the beauty of hot hide glue when used correctly...it sets up quickly and doesn't overally wick into the cloth. I think just re-reading Bill Spurlock's key bushing articles can clear up hot hide problems... David I. ----- Original message ----------------------------------------> From: Susan Kline <skline@peak.org> To: College and University Technicians <caut@ptg.org> Received: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 19:35:54 -0700 Subject: RE: hot hide glue wash >At 10:16 PM 6/4/2004 -0400, you wrote: >>I suppose it does matter how much you use. I have tried to remove bushings >>installed with white glue. Cursed the whole job through. What a mess. >>Never did get it all off but enough, I reasoned to make the new ones >>successful. >> >>Greg Newell >Somebody must have really smeared the stuff in there. It's the big globs of >white glue which are hard to remove. I put an even but thin ribbon on the >bushing itself, and then use Bill Spurlock's cauls. By the time the wood >absorbs some and the bushing absorbs some, there shouldn't be any left to >squeeze out and make a mess. Actually, I found that the time I tried the >hot hide glue it wicked into the cloth worse than the Elmer's. No doubt the >hot hide glue was the wrong consistency and I probably used too much. >Susan Kline >_______________________________________________ >caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives _______________________________________________ caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives _______________________________________________ caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
This PTG archive page provided courtesy of Moy Piano Service, LLC