Speaking of lyre repairs....has the Journal ever had a extensive article on lyre repairs...field and shop...every possible situation? Seems to me Jim Harvey did something or had a class... David Ilvedson, RPT ----- Original message ----------------------------------------> From: Otto Keyes <okeyes@uidaho.edu> To: College and University Technicians <caut@ptg.org> Received: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 13:10:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [CAUT] Knabe Grand >This summer I had a Sohmer grand w/ fluted legs, scrollwork lyre, etc, that >the got shoved around the theatre lobby, leg knocked off, & lyre crushed . >Not a pretty sight, & no possible way to duplicate it. Both uprights were >broken right at the top of the pedal box at the smallest/weakest possible >spot in the turning. I ended up using polyurethane liquid glue at the >breaks (this stuff needs good clamping or it will push the parts apart), >then drilled up through the pedal box into the uprights & glued in maple >dowels. The repair is very solid & hardly visible...if you stand back about >20 feet, & squint your eyes into the darkness under the piano. >Actually it turned out pretty decently, but would have been better had I >located the center of the dowel/upright from the top & drilled a pilot hole. >I made an assumption (violating Otto's motto: "Check everyting before you >do anything!") and didn't realize until too late that the dowels did not >extend all the way into the pedal box. So I measured & centered as best I >could, but the drill hole breached the thin spot in the upright, allowing >the reinforcing dowel to protrude a bit. I could have shaped that down, but >wanted the full strength, so I disguised it & it came out pretty well. >The poly glue is tough stuff on its own, & will hold pretty well -- even on >an end grain joint. Just don't try to wipe off the excess. Let it cure, >then chip/cut off the foam. >Otto >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Avery Todd" <atodd@uh.edu> >To: "College and University Technicians" <caut@ptg.org> >Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 11:51 AM >Subject: [CAUT] Knabe Grand >> List, >> >> Would anyone happen to have a suggestion on where I might be able to find >> someone to duplicate/repair a badly messed up pedal lyre on an old Knabe >> grand, app. 6'3"? I >> sent an e-mail to a tech friend of mine in this general area but I don't >> know if >> he'll have the time to do it, so in the meantime, I thought I'd see if >anyone >> had any other suggestions. >> >> I was working with the pedals and suddenly, the whole bottom of it broke >> and/or >> came loose. It's obviously been worked on before, not very well. I'm not a >> good >> enough woodworker to do this one, so any suggestions would be welcome. >Even >> replacing it. >> >> The one pictured in the Schaff catalogue "might" be adaptable but the >> measurements >> are somewhat different. >> >> Theirs: 21¼" high, 13½" wide @ top, 10" wide @ pedals. >> Mine: 23" high, 12" wide @ top, 8½" wide @ pedals. >> >> There is a little flaring out in the design on the Knabe, so there would >> probably >> be room to "cheat" a little. It would be nice to have an exact duplicate >but I >> seriously doubt that's possible. Unless someone can duplicate some of the >> parts. >> >> Actually, I just took another look and realized that the only thing that >would >> have to be done is to duplicate the two tapered "legs" between the pedal >> box and >> the top and drill out and replace the old dowels that join the two. >> >> I'll probably be putting this on the pianotech list tonight when I get >> home, so >> I apologize in advance to any of you who will end up getting two of these >> posts. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Avery >> >> ________________________________ >> Avery Todd >> University of Houston >> Houston, TX >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >> >_______________________________________________ >caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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