---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment I haven't had that problem but I do expect the cover to stretch (even wrinkle a little) around the tank. I suppose you could cut out and tape for the tank but I think it is too shiny compared to the cover. By the way, get your own black capped tacks, there aren't enough with the kit, or, do that slick glue-up job they're pushing, haven't tried that one yet. Andrew At 01:14 PM 9/14/2005, you wrote: > >Are these undercovers on pianos with dual tanks? With this type of >installation I find that the tanks are mounted to near the rims to >use undercovers, at least tightly stretched ones. > >- Mark Dierauf >- Concord, NH >- >-----Original Message----- >From: Andrew Anderson [mailto:andrew@andersonmusic.com] >Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 8:09 PM >To: College and University Technicians >Subject: Re: [CAUT] DC system on stage > >Barbara, >I've used an undercover and there is no apparent sonic >impact. There isn't supposed to be any. It is stretchy, black, and >covers things up nicely. At a distance people will not be able to >discern that it is "lumpy" because of the DC equipment. I would do >the undercover for that reason alone, the additional benefit of >isolating the climate there from air-currents is just icing on the cake IMHO. > >Andrew >At 06:25 PM 9/13/2005, you wrote: > >Thanks, Mark. If the proposal gets approved, I'll be in touch. > >Barbara Richmond > >PS Any pictures? > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <mailto:Cramer@BrandonU.ca>Mark Cramer >To: <mailto:caut@ptg.org>College and University Technicians >Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 5:33 PM >Subject: RE: [CAUT] DC system on stage >Barbara, Bill, > >Sorry Bill, I'm not a big fan of the carts either. > >They are removed from the piano at precisely the time I don't want >"anything" changing around the piano. > >We do use them in Banff, but only in the Rolston Recital Hall, and >only (I believe) because this is one hall where ambient conditions >are indeed monitored and controlled. > >I've encountered mold in only one instance Bill (sorry to hear of >your experiences); a new-to-me client with an 1970's L: the tank was >plugged directly into the wall... as in bypass the >humidistat! (need I say more?) > >I'm not sure of the material Bill refers to Barbara, but the cloth >Dampp-Chaser's under-covers are made from will not absorb sound, >they're acoustic grille cloth. For all practical purposes: acoustic >impact = zero. > >So I will vote for an installed system with undercover. > >The first benefit being to buffer the piano's climate from changes >and high air-movement within the hall. > >The second really, is to nicely hide the installation. Even if there >is the odd wrinkle or bulge in the cloth, from the front row the >underside of the piano looks like a "sea of black." > >We've installed a few Barbara, so if I can provide any install tips; ><mailto:cramer@brandonu.ca>cramer@brandonu.ca > >Meanwhile, something the two of you (and others?) may be interested >in as well: > >I've just installed an "un-plug" alarm in one of our ensemble rooms. > >Un-plug the piano, and a concealed beeper sounds until the piano is >plugged back in. > >So far so good. I've posted instructions (that even music students >can read), the piano has been moved, and the "movee" figured out the >"prompt" immediately. > >Sorry I cannot provide mechanical details, as one of our engineers >devised it. Basically it's a relay with a 9v batter and a pulse beeper. > >best regards to you both, >Mark Cramer, >Brandon University > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- >From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [ mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org]On Behalf >Of Bdshull@aol.com >Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 4:03 PM >To: caut@ptg.org >Subject: Re: [CAUT] DC system on stage >Hi, Barbara, > >My experience with buckets tight up to the soundboard is that the >board discolors, mold develops, and condensation causes hardwood >floors to betray water overhead.....Don't ask me how I know...but >shortly after that nasty experience several years ago Damppchaser >extended the hanger length considerably. > >A cover under the piano will certainly affect the reflection of >sound...but there are probably folks on the list who could tell you >how much, in their own experience....I'm interested too! > >Just to go with my "cart" idea again....the cart can be kept under >the piano on stage, and removed just for performances, of course.... > >OR....the piano can be equipped with heater bars and humidistat, and >the cart only with humidifiers, and used as much as possible. > >Bill Shull > > >In a message dated 9/13/2005 1:20:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >piano57@insightbb.com writes: >Thanks, Bill. > >Hmm....my goal was a system that could always be plugged in (there >are a lot of outlets on that black stage floor), to avoid the >syndrome of nice-atmosphere-while-in-storage and then all heck >breaks out when it's moved on stage. You know what I mean? > >Barbara Richmond >----- Original Message ----- >From: <mailto:Bdshull@aol.com>Bdshull@aol.com >To: <mailto:caut@ptg.org>caut@ptg.org >Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 3:09 PM >Subject: Re: [CAUT] DC system on stage >In a message dated 9/13/2005 12:59:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ><mailto:piano57@insightbb.com>piano57@insightbb.com writes: >Hi all, > >Does anyone have a picture of, or could direct me to a picture of a >Steinway D with a full DC system with undercover--preferably on a >stage? I have submitted a proposal for the DC system, but a friend >pointed out to me, that sometimes, because the humidifier buckets >hang down a bit, the piano looks.........pregnant. I doubt my >technical director would be happy with such a look and would like >him to see it before hand. > >Thanks much. > >Barbara Richmond, RPT >Barbara, If you could forego the undercover, you could modify the >Jahn stands which Dampp-chaser is experimenting with. They are >single system carts with a leg on each corner, and need to be >combined into a dual system stand which straddles the truck; I did >this during the summer, and will be sending Roger Wheelock the >modification drawings when I "get it together." > >Bill Shull ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/caut.php/attachments/60/58/7b/3e/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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