[CAUT] RE : comparisons

[Marcel Carey]

Hi Aaron,
 
I have. I find the T-121 to be a U-1 with less frills. Hammers don't
have underfelt and are not voiced as well as U-1, but, otherwise, the
same to me. It seems to be the exact same scale as the U-1. I use the
same tuning file and it fits right in. The only thing I don't like about
them is the way the furniture is put together. The T-121's fallboard is
glued & srewed to the front board that we have to take off for service.
This piece is very heave and there is no grip to hold it while removing
and re-installing. Also the bottom board is very difficult to remove and
put back since it is oversized for the clearance available between the
sides and the  front legs. 
 
The T-116 I don't find very interesting. The treble is OK but the break
doesn't please me.
 
Marcel Carey, RPT
Sherbrooke, QC

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Aaron Bousel
Envoyé : 17 août 2006 19:57
À : ilvey at sbcglobal.net; College and University Technicians
Objet : Re: [CAUT] comparisons


Yep, That's where I got my info. Just wondering if anyone has actually
had experience with these.

Aaron

At 07:52 PM 8/17/2006, you wrote:



Aaron,

Go to
http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/ContentDetail/ModelSeriesDetail/0,,C
NTID%253D1454%2526CTID%253D201200%2526CNTYP%253DPRODUCT,00.html 

It looks like a step up from the P22...more like the U1...U3


David Ilvedson, RPT
Pacifica, CA 94044



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Original message
From: "Aaron Bousel" 
To: "College and University Technicians" 
Received: 8/17/2006 4:14:48 PM
Subject: Re: [CAUT] comparisons

Typically we (UMass Amherst) get 3 small grands, one U1 and 10 P22. I'd
agree with everything said about the P22. I've just been told that the
dealer is pushing some T116 and T121 in place of the some of the P22.
I'm trying to sort out the differences between these models and also to
give advice as to whether we should be making a fuss about getting these
in place of the P22. (We get 14 pianos and are required to buy one, so
far it's always been a P22 because of budget restraints.)

I've gone to the Yamaha website and here's what I've come up with so
far:

The T116 looks roughly equivalent to the P22 except that it has a
polyester finish, weighs 71 pounds less and is 3" narrower back to
front. Because of the weight difference I'm guessing this means less, or
no, back structure. Both are made in USA.

The T121 weighs 49 pounds less than the P22 but is 3" taller. Also has
heavier hammers (22lb vs. 14 lb) than the T116 and P22. 

The U1 (just for comparison since that's one we're all familiar with)
weighs 24 pounds more than the T121, but is also 25 pounds lighter than
the P22.

Interestingly neither the T121 nor the U1 say where they are made,
though we know the U1 is made in Japan. 

Another interesting fact: They all have the same length (44.5") listed
for the first bass string.

I've never seen the T116 or T121 so I'm wondering if anyone has any
experience with these. On paper it looks as though the T121 might be a
step up from the P22. I guess I could drive the 40 minutes to go to the
dealer and check them out, but I'm on contract and that would be on my
nickel, plus I've got a mess of pianos to tune before the beginning of
September.

If you've seen or worked on either the T116 or T121 I'd love to know how
you found them in comparison to the P22

Thanks in advance for the feedback.

Aaron


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Aaron Bousel
Registered Piano Technician, Piano Technicians Guild
abousel at comcast.net
(413) 253-3846 (voice & fax) 


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Aaron Bousel
Registered Piano Technician, Piano Technicians Guild
abousel at comcast.net
(413) 253-3846 (voice & fax) 

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