[CAUT] Undercover - hooks and grommets

[Alan McCoy]

You guys are on to me. Yeah, I've been bowling for way too long. That and
not switching arms while carrying my 50# bag o' tools.

Alan




> From: John Ross <jrpiano at win.eastlink.ca>
> Reply-To: "College and University Technicians <caut at ptg.org>" <caut at ptg.org>
> Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 14:21:00 -0300
> To: "College and University Technicians <caut at ptg.org>" <caut at ptg.org>
> Subject: Re: [CAUT] Undercover - hooks and grommets
> 
> That wouldn't be a finger would it? :-)
> John M. Ross
> Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada.
> jrpiano at win.eastlink.ca
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alan McCoy" <amccoy at mail.ewu.edu>
> To: <caut at ptg.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 12:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [CAUT] Undercover - hooks and grommets
> 
> 
>> Hey Fred and David,
>> 
>> This digital sensing device to prevent overfilling exists already.
>> I've been
>> using one for years and it is foolproof, infinitely adjustable
>> on-the-fly
>> and cheap. It's in everybody's tool kit.
>> 
>> Alan
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Fred Sturm <fssturm at unm.edu>
>>> Reply-To: "College and University Technicians <caut at ptg.org>"
>>> <caut at ptg.org>
>>> Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 14:47:17 -0600
>>> To: "College and University Technicians <caut at ptg.org>"
>>> <caut at ptg.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [CAUT] Undercover - hooks and grommets
>>> 
>>> Hi Mark,
>>> I can hear the end of the trickling sound okay, but I like to "push
>>> the envelope" and add another half a liter or so beyond, to take care
>>> of the last day of those two weeks between fillings during dry
>>> periods. Me, I have no help and have to fill the darned things
>>> myself. Once every two weeks I can handle.
>>> It's a matter of learning how much water to add beyond the point
>>> where the sound diminishes to nothing, and the precise timing of the
>>> end of the trickle noise. Of course, this depends on the end of the
>>> tube (its setting in relationship to the top/bottom of the tank)
>>> being consistent from piano to piano. I overfilled precisely two
>>> times (we have hard water, so it left plenty of evidence in the form
>>> of minerals). Fine enough for me, but if you are training student
>>> help, you'll want something more concrete.
>>> There are plenty of possibilities, including installing one of those
>>> beepers at just the right level (probes set at just below the target
>>> water level), with a switch in its cord. Turn the switch on so it is
>>> beeping when you start to fill, then stop adding water when it stops
>>> beeping. And remember to switch it off now, to avoid annoying the
>>> sensitive ears of the piano prof between services <G>.
>>> Regards,
>>> Fred Sturm
>>> University of New Mexico
>>> fssturm at unm.edu
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 6, 2006, at 1:20 PM, Mark Cramer wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Question: Since you listen to the (faint) trickling sound when
>>>> filling
>>>> tanks, how hard should it be to make the filling process "noisier"
>>>> i.e.: add
>>>> somthing that rattles around at the end of the tube... ?
>>>> 
>>>> or for that matter, why not a simple float that rises with the
>>>> "tide" until
>>>> it blocks the end of the filler tube?
>>>> 
>>>> We really should be able to solve this thing.
>>>> 
>>>> best regards,
>>>> Mark Cramer,
>>>> Brandon University
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org]On Behalf Of
>>>> Fred Sturm
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 9:36 AM
>>>> To: College and University Technicians
>>>> Subject: [CAUT] Undercover - hooks and grommets
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> Here are some pictures, as promised earlier, of my method of
>>>> attaching an undercover, using hooks and grommets. It's the first
>>>> such installation I ever did, and is an "under the beams"
>>>> installation (before the new tanks which fit between beams), and
>>>> with
>>>> 48" (50w) rod (extends beyond the fabric - a neater job can be had
>>>> with 38w, less wrinkling of fabric). Took me less than an hour to
>>>> install, and really doesn't look too bad. I am better at it now, and
>>>> can make a neater job of it for a fancy living room. This is in a
>>>> faculty studio, and not at all in view. I was experimenting, and the
>>>> grommets were added after a trial with tape, staples, and a hole. I
>>>> find now that, with grommet squeezing pliers, I can just use the
>>>> grommet to hold the fabric (create the "hem" and attach to the
>>>> hook),
>>>> and don't need the reinforcement of tape. The grommets in the
>>>> picture
>>>> were applied using a hammer, with punch and shaped anvil. The
>>>> results
>>>> were not very consistent, and it was much more time-consuming than
>>>> pliers. $15 for the pliers was well worth the expense.
>>>> Besides ease of installation. what I like about this system is ease
>>>> of removal and replacement. Literally seconds to get it out of the
>>>> way to service the tank and pads, and seconds to replace it. The
>>>> observant among you might notice the tell-tale signs of over-filling
>>>> the tank. I listen to the fill noise more carefully now. I manage to
>>>> get two weeks between filling by maxing almost to the top of the
>>>> tank.
>>>> If anyone has questions, I'll do my best to answer, or perhaps take
>>>> some different pictures. This was a hard set up for photography, as
>>>> it is rather cramped (two B's next to each other), but it's the only
>>>> undercover I have ready access to. The others I have installed are
>>>> in
>>>> private clients' homes.
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Fred Sturm
>>>> University of New Mexico
>>>> fssturm at unm.edu
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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