[CAUT] DANGEROUS technique for getting pianos on the colson dolly

[Jim Busby]

Ok Jeff,

 

We're on the same page. (Flame suits off. :-) I'm also a redneck!) No
offense taken and hopefully none sent.

 

I do agree that wood on top of the block would work, but after making
the darn things and seeing them break just by stacking them on the
pallets it made me leery of them. It's not necessarily the pressure that
breaks them if it's distributed evenly, but a sharp blow or pressure on
a small point and they will break. The problem is that you will never
know if the gorillas that made them started a small fracture or not.
Even if they are oriented right if there's a microscopic fracture they
will fail. Typically pallets of blocks have a certain percent that break
in transport or on the job. That's why I cringed at the thought... 

 

Yeah, I still throw a cinder block under things now and then... 

 

Regards,

Jim

 

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From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of
Jeff Tanner
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 2:39 PM
To: College and University Technicians
Subject: Re: [CAUT] DANGEROUS technique for getting pianos on the colson
dolly

 

Hi Jim,

I apologize if my rebuttal didn't come across as tongue-in-cheek as I
intended.  I think you misunderstood my joke -- I teased that you guys
had redneckophobia -- the fear of being associated with or being accused
of possibly doing something "redneck".  It was not a personal slam on
you -- but me.  I, being a Southerner, am accustomed to folks from all
other parts of the country being of the conviction that all southerners
are ignorant rednecks, and our ideas wreak of ignorance.

 

Yes, blocks will fail if used improperly, and the failures you speak of
are a result of improper use.  I have never heard of one failing when
turned the correct way.  And as I described, using a wood block between
the concrete block and the jack, will be no different than the way the
blocks are used as supports for the millions of mobile homes they
support.  You will be much more likely to fracture the block
transporting it to and from your car.

 

Yes, if you are careless with them, they can fail.  That is common
sense.  But used properly they are a very useful and inexpensive tool.

Jeff

 

 

On May 30, 2006, at 1:15 PM, Jim Busby wrote:





Hi Jeff,

 

Blocks used in construction by code usually have rebar placed through
them and are filled with concrete. If you did that I would use them. I
don't mean to get into a pissing contest here but even a diamond that is
hit at the right place with a very slight blow will fracture.

 

I used to make blocks for a living as a young college student and heard
many stories of cars falling on people who thought they were safe for
such use. Call any manufacturer of them and they should tell you not to
use them in this way. Just hit them or apply pressure (in any
orientation) and they MAY fracture. They may not, but if even one falls
with a car (or a piano) that is too many. Hence the "redneck" point I
made.

 

You seem to be a good technician and such personal slams (redneck?!) at
what may be valid criticisms are uncalled for. I agreed with Ed and
tried to use some humor to make a point. Sorry if you didn't take it as
such. Go ahead and use blocks to your hearts content, but it MAY
fracture, and over time with enough repeated stress probably will. Wood
blocks won't, ever. No personal slam to you Jeff. Chill out, and please
check this out before recommending it to others.

 

Regards,

Jim Busby

AKA redneck, hatemonger, fill in the blank...

(Just kidding! Geeze..)

 

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From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of
Jeff Tanner
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 9:03 AM
To: ed440 at mindspring.com <mailto:ed440 at mindspring.com> ; College and
University Technicians
Subject: Re: [CAUT] DANGEROUS technique for getting pianos on the colson
dolly

 

 

On May 26, 2006, at 4:59 PM, ed440 at mindspring.com
<mailto:ed440 at mindspring.com>  wrote:






Concrete blocks/cinder blocks can fracture and crumble!

 

 

And yet, your house is sitting on them.

 

They only fracture and crumble when used incorrectly.

 

Jeff





 

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