On 8/29/07 12:08 PM, "Don Mannino" <DMannino at kawaius.com> wrote: > So, the exact pitch level is really learned, and even the best ears acquire > what 'A' should be from hearing music. In my opinion, if we consistently hear > 442 because we like listening to an orchestra that tunes there, then I think > that will sound correct to the most sensitive musical ear. Yes, this is a very important point. Whatever level of ³perfection² someone has was learned by reference with something. What was that something? The family piano? A pitch fork? A pitch pipe? These days there is a lot more accuracy with electronic pitch sources, but I have always figured that someone¹s sense of pitch might very well depend on how often their parents had the piano tuned, and on whether the tuner had a good pitch source (and was a competent tuner, and was or wasn¹t floating pitch). For that matter, even with a perfect fork, at perfect pitch (no temperature-caused variation), it takes a mighty fine tuner to match that within 1 cent. The RPT standard is + or 3 cents. 20 years ago, we included ³fork error² in the test scoring. All this is to give a bit of historical perspective. How close has been ³good enough² over the years, and how has that affected what people have learned as their ³perfect standard?² I guess to give a fair historical perspective, one has to include the stroboscopes that turned up in nearly every school band and orchestra room starting around the 60s, so maybe we¹ve had a pretty good reference among musicians for a good while. On Dave¹s question, about 20 years ago I had been asked to tune a harpsichord to 441.5 (yep, that was the precise request) for a touring orchestra from Europe. The harpsichord was way, way off pitch when I tuned for rehearsal, but I tried to leave it pretty darned close to 441.5. The conductor, when he came in, played the A and told me it was a wee bit flat. I checked, and it had settled to 441 (I was using a well-calibrated fork, and counting beats against a watch, looking for three beats against two seconds). So he was hearing that small difference. Regards, Fred Sturm University of New Mexico -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/caut.php/attachments/20070829/fb7e0030/attachment.html
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