It seems to me, that the first people in a field, would have to be self-taught. They learned by their mistakes. What they passed on, was don't make the same mistakes, that had already been made. Some academics to a very poor job, of imparting their knowledge, and unfortunately, their pay-scales are determined by the courses they passed, and not their ability to impart the knowledge successfully. Some teacher/instructors couldn't teach their way out of a wet paper bag. But they do have the credentials. Credentials do NOT the man make. John M. Ross Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada jrpiano at win.eastlink.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Nossaman" <rnossaman at cox.net> To: "College and University Technicians" <caut at ptg.org> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [CAUT] CAUT credential vs. academic program? > >> Most (not all) of the stuff I hear and read from some of these "self >> taught" guys (and Mr. N is one of the worst in that regard) suffers >> precisely from this lack of varied perspective. They see things from one >> pair of eyes - their own. Never engaging in the give-and-take that a true >> student/teacher relationship is based on, from which both learn. Perhaps >> that's why some of these folks have such a jaundiced view of the >> educational establishment - they seem to universalize their own miserable >> experience which may have been caused in part by their own unwillingness >> to perhaps listen to someone else's voice but their own... >> >> Israel Stein > > > I see that I've missed out. Had you been around to guide and inform me > throughout my miserable mislead life, I might have eventually learned > something worthwhile and become knowledgeable and competent at what I do. > Pity it's too late for me to take up the Stein way of thinking at this > point. I'm already ruined by too many rational cause and effect > connections. > > And I still have met more than a few people who became quite accomplished > musicians without formal instruction of any kind, which is what this was > all about. > > Ron N >
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