[CAUT] CAUT Credential

[Jim Busby]

Hi David,

Yeah, I guess we are a bit crazy at that.

Someone privately wrote that a "continuing ed" program would be
understood by college administration and would promote the conventions,
etc. A "credential" would need to be kept up by attending specified
classes periodically. He was also against more "testing". This may be
the way to go; "keep up" skills and knowledge by continuing education.
You're right about all it will take. "Grandfathering", etc. and how to
include non PTG technicians will all need to be discussed. The CAUT
committee has a horse to swallow, but it seems like a worthy cause, so
far.

Regards,
Jim Busby BYU

-----Original Message-----
From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of
David Ilvedson
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 7:41 PM
To: caut at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Job Opening, U. of Michigan, Ann Arbor

Most of the school listings I see, would prefer PTG membership and RPT
status.   Would new listings start including RPT and CAUT status
preferred or possibly you think the RPT status can be eliminated as it
has no meaning?   I don't see the need for another "credential".   Would
the CAUT credential we much harder to achieve?   i.e. a "real" test.
Would existing College techs be grandfathered in?  Besides, it's easy to
talk about it...I know all the stuff concerned with RPT status was years
in the making and a huge amount of work...and the
politics...YIKES...who's going to take that job on?   Are you guys
crazy?

David Ilvedson, RPT
Pacifica, CA  94044

----- Original message ----------------------------------------
From: "Richard Brekne" <ricb at pianostemmer.no>
To: caut at ptg.org
Received: 10/9/2007 1:23:11 PM
Subject: [CAUT]  Job Opening, U. of Michigan, Ann Arbor


>This is actually good news... I must respectfully disagree with
skeptics 
>to a CAUT certification on the grounds given so far.  Having the 
>advantage of being able to live in and see up close an personal both 
>types of systems I must say that despite the inherent problems in a 
>certified world... that world IMHO presents a far better all and all 
>reality.

>Its not a matter of more letters behind ones name.  Its about providing

>a truly credible credential that is demanding enough to deserve
whatever 
>recognition relevant interest groups can manage to market up for it.
If 
>colleges and universities absolutely know that a person holding a CAUT 
><<meister>> certification is qualified to handle all aspects of 
>administering and caring for a demanding piano intensive environment, 
>then they will be interested.  Indeed... someone mentioned Steinway C&A

>techs.  There are schools all over the place asking to send their techs

>to Steinway Academy sessions exactly because they have the sense that 
>this will be of benefit to their schools.  Steinway's all Steinway 
>school policy is as successful as it is very much because they are able

>to make schools aware that such a school will draw the absolute largest

>majority of the best musician prospects... and statistics seem to bear 
>this out.  Perhaps a closer alignment between CAUT and Steinway would
be 
>of interest in this regard. ???

>As far as whether this is a place to discuss such things... we dont 
>really have a CAUT-L list... so where else for the moment ?


>    Alan, List,

>    As you may know the CAUT Committee is working on such a credential.
I
>    hope I'm not overstepping anyone by this post but it seems a timely
>    topic seeing as how we're approaching deadlines for council
proposals. I
>    would GREATLY appreciate a dialogue on this. Is it "pie in the sky"
to
>    develop a CAUT credential? Is it too exclusive? I don't know if
this is
>    a good place for this discussion, but any private emails to me
would
>    also help. Eric is now the chairman of this committee and I'm a
>    committee member (along with Alan McCoy) given the charge of
developing
>    a curriculum.

>    Thanks