"Hitting a string with a marimba mallet is a different story, so there I would want to set limits." Why? Isn't that a cloth covered mallet? I don't see a problem unless they want to smash the mallet against the strings... David Ilvedson, RPT Pacifica, CA 94044 ----- Original message ---------------------------------------- From: "Fred Sturm" <fssturm at unm.edu> To: "College and University Technicians" <caut at ptg.org> Received: 4/15/2008 1:30:27 PM Subject: Re: [CAUT] Unauthorized "prepared pianos" >On Apr 13, 2008, at 6:39 AM, Kent Swafford wrote: >> Things ebb and flow in popularity. Ten years ago, duo piano playing >> was all the rage, and we had to constantly maintain pairs of pianos. >> Now, inside-the-piano techniques appear to be particularly popular. >> There is too much inside-the-piano activity here to limit it to >> certain pianos. All pianists can understand that if inside-the-piano >> techniques cause damage, they won't have good pianos on which to >> play their traditional pieces. Unauthorized piano moving has caused >> considerably more damage than inside-the-piano techniques. For that >> matter, simple heavy playing can cause more damage to pianos than >> inside-the-piano techniques. I try to take care of a Yamaha MIDI C6 >> at a church where the pianist (he did his undergraduate work at an >> Ivy league school) plays almost exclusively classical music. During >> the busy times of the year, I hear from him every couple weeks to >> repair broken strings, loose hammer heads, etc. The heavy playing >> and constant presence of new strings make it impossible to keep the >> piano in tune. And don't get me started about the damage caused by >> removing piano lids; I thought I had successfully banned the >> practice of removing piano lids; then one of the faculty scheduled a >> performance of Crumb's Makrokosmos III with Bartok's Sonata for Two >> Pianos and Percussion; off came the lids, but I was there myself to >> do it safely. >> >> From my point of view, I see little reason to single out inside-the- >> piano techniques. >> >> Kent Swafford > I agree with Kent's sentiments for the most part. When it comes to >reaching inside and plucking, strumming, touching nodes, and the like, >I agree wholeheartedly. This is simply so common, and really so >innocuous from the point of view of damage to the instrument (with >very few exceptions), that I think we need to simply accept it as a >given, as being standard use of a piano in the caut setting. Same goes >for various percussive effects produced by slapping or knocking on >various case parts. (Yes, one _can_ cause damage, but, as Kent points >out, moving, lid removal, and abusively hard playing can be more >destructive). > It is in the true "prepared piano" realm (Cage and Crumb being prime >examples, though Crumb is mostly "prepared on the fly" during the >course of performance) that I think a dedicated piano becomes >valuable. Partly because most of their works of this ilk are written >with a six foot instrument in mind for strut placement and number of >bass strings, partly because then the instrument can be prepared in >advance and have things left in it between dress rehearsal and >performance. And, yes, partly because there is somewhat more >likelihood of damage of some sort, even if it is only a dropped screw >causing binding parts or the like. The dedicated piano would also be >indicated for such effects as use of percussive implements (mallets >and the like) on strings or other parts, with some degree of >supervision and consultation. > Our concert instruments are regularly plucked and strummed (the head >of the piano faculty composes music which makes some use of these >techniques - which would make it pretty hard for me to try to control >or prohibit them even if I wanted to). I have seen next to no damage >from this kind of activity, the sole exception being occasional >trichord dampers that are not seating (have been misaligned, and a few >seconds usually serves to correct the problem, though admittedly that >doesn't help in the concert situation where I am not present) - and >really I think that has only happened on rehearsal instruments, not on >the concert ones. I have never found that this activity causes tuning >issues, or at least none that is more severe than hard playing. Same >goes for "bowing" strings. Hitting a string with a marimba mallet is a >different story, so there I would want to set limits. >Regards, >Fred Sturm >University of New Mexico >fssturm at unm.edu
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