Hi Eric Its interesting to note that when the Wurzen felt hammer popped back up on the market a few years ago, they first appeared on this list and pianotech because of a Dutch fellow named Andre Oorebeck who'd picked up on them in Europe. Renner made (and still does) a very nice Wurzen hammer. Back then the vast majority of the initial posts about hammers in general and Wurzen in particular was that existing hammers were by and large way too hard. The search for an adequately soft hammer was on and Renner Wurzens were quite a bit less hard then many on the field. Ronsen came out with their hammer shortly after... and then we started hearing about Bacon felt from a few sources... Ronsen in particular. Bacons by Ronsen have appeared to me from posts written as the softest of the bunch but I am lacking in direct experience with them myself. Point is that now after a few years of delving into the world of soft dark tone.... everyone seems to be looking for a bit more power, brightness and higher dynamics again. This seems to follow closely my own experience with voicing, my experience in dealing with pianists whom decide they want softer tone for a while, and just about every long term voicing story I hear from many techs around the world. I had a voicing teacher, very famous Japanese fellow who deserted Yamaha for Steinway in Japan, once tell me that the soft and beautiful tone that lacks a glassy edge at fortisimo and upwards is a phase many if not most less experienced concert voicers go through and that in the end if you dont have that edge... pianists will sooner or later ask someone provide it for them. Now for the most part here on these two lists it appears the collective we on on that pendulum swing back towards more power and brightness. I think this is bound to refect that never ending impossible quest to create more dynamic range then is really possible on the piano... we like this one day... then the next day we like the other. Pianists and techs alike. Interesting to be sure. Cheers RicB I've put a number of sets of Ronsen Wurtzen hammers on and I like them for our practice rooms but I've had an experience similar to Alan's. Without lacquer they seem to be missing something at all volumes, even for a practice room. At the minimum I'll soak them from the mid-tenor on up and often soak the whole set. You have to needle them back down after doing this of course but they then have a good strong core for a wider dynamic range. They sound nice after doing this plus I've found that if hammers are voiced too soft the kids just pound harder to get tone out of the piano. From my experience I can't imagine using these hammers "straight out of the box". That being said, I still like them a lot though I wouldn't put them on a performance piano. Eric
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