[CAUT] Brodmann pianos

[Jim Busby]

Hi Ric,

Narrow minded meant I expected them to only see it "my" way. You made a good point that people won't generally accept that from others.

But, if I was the King of the Universe cantilevered bass bridges would go the way of dinosaurs. <G>

Thanks Ric.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Richard Brekne
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 1:11 PM
To: caut at ptg.org
Subject: [CAUT] Brodmann pianos

Jim. I wouldnt say your comments were narrow minded. I've read too much
of your stuff to think of you in that sense. It IS easy to slip a bit
into that gulley tho... and I've done it more then once.

Ron... well.. what can I say... you're a clever guy to be sure but you
just made my point better then I could ever have made it myself. You're
right and the cantilever folk of the world are wrong... period... that
about sizes it up. Sheep dip indeed. Just as deep as anyone elses. Fact
is... the non-cantilever long back scale is well known out there in the
world... and these guys all know all about it and many have assessed its
characteristics and simply don't like the resulting sound. Same goes for
your soundboard approach.. this stuff isn't new.... its all very old
really. And so what ??? You build what you like... they build what they
like... and by all means Jim should build what he likes...

We could all do with a whole lot less of calling Sheep-dip at each
other... or accusing folks of arm-chair bullshit... or the rest of it...
And misunderstand me not... I've said exactly the same kind of thing to
folks over here who just as rudely dismiss Dels building philosophies.

To each their own.

Cheers
RicB

         > Good points. I guess I shouldn't expect anyone to jump up and
        down with
         > joy over a criticism of their pride and joy... It was narrow
        minded indeed.


    Sheep dip. Don't apologize for being right.

    Narrow mindedness precludes consideration of anything
    different that could lead to the realization that there might
    be better ways to do things than we "believe" or were
    "taught". Assessing a different idea on logical merit and
    ascertaining it's actual physical merits by trying it is as
    broad minded, sincere, and practical as it gets. If anyone is
    narrow minded, it's the individual that adheres to the
    cantilever and short back scale while ignoring the potential
    for improvement of a different approach. Jim, you weren't born
    believing that moving the bridge to eliminate the cantilever
    and lengthening the back scale was the thing to to, and
    cooking up any old justification you could think of, however
    flaky, to justify your belief. You were introduced to the idea
    by others, and though it was different from what you have seen
    in pianos all your life, it made enough sense to you that you
    tried it to find out if it worked (and found it worked very
    well) - exactly as I did. You like the result, as I do, and
    don't mind passing potentially valuable information on to
    someone who might benefit from it, as I also don't. Being
    called narrow minded for doing so strikes me as appropriate
    justification for not sharing further information, if the
    attitude is general, or installing appropriate filters if the
    attitude is specific. But that's just me.

    Ron N