[CAUT] temperament for Schubert (Fred Sturm)

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Thu Jan 15 18:20:32 PST 2009


Fred writes: 
<< But in no instance were there  
instructions for grading the sizes of the M3s (in surviving "practical  
instructions"). So that, from a practical historical perspective,  
there would not be an even gradient of sizes of M3, but rather a  
number of "equally good" and a few "equally bad" ones.<<

          There are many instructions that, if followed, created an orderly, 
(not necessarily perfect), increase in the size of the thirds.  The Prinz, 
Jean Jousse, Rousseau, several Kirnbergers, as well as Stanhope's improvement on 
the Kirnberger, (Pg. 285 in "Tuning").  This version of Stanhope's temperament 
has two pure M3, 6 M3's at 20 cents, and steps of 6 and 13 cents for the D 
and A thirds, and 7 and 14 cents for the F-A and Bb-D respectively. This is one 
of the rougher temperaments, but still follows the general order that almost 
all others have written.  
    Even Handel's temperament (pg 167 in "Tuning"), graduates the M3's from 9 
cents at the C-E to 19 cents at the C#-F, with each additional accidental in 
the key signature corresponding to a larger degree of tempering in the tonic 
M3.  I don't know where one would decide the M3 changes from "good" to "bad," 
but there is an undeniable balance shared with the overwhelming majority of 
Jorgensen's documented temperaments.   
 To say that, " from a practical historical perspective, there would not be 
an even gradient of sizes of M3, but rather a number of 'equally good" and a 
few "equally bad" ones" doesn't address our question here.  A good example was 
Rousseau, who according to Jorgensen, produced a temperament of 1779 which 
progresses around the circle with every key's M3 from G all the way around to C 
progressing in increasing then decreasing fashion.  Perfection of progression is 
not required to obey the virtually universal form of WT. 
 
     <<While the neat symmetry of Valotti and Young is lovely and  
intellectually satisfying, they do not provide a good model of  
historical practice, as they are exceptions appearing on the fringes. >>

       I submit that they are the most highly refined versions of what the 
rest of the theorists and tuners were attempting to do in historical practice. 
(DeMorgan excepted).  
Regards, 


Ed Foote RPT 
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