[CAUT] picking out a new concert grand

[Ed Sutton]

The piano rooms are away from the big room, except for Bluthner, who choose 
to be in a place where they can't be heard.
In today's world, the piano is the quiet instrument!
es
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrew Anderson" <andrew at andersonmusic.com>
To: "David Ilvedson" <ilvey at sbcglobal.net>; <caut at ptg.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:54 AM
Subject: Re: [CAUT] picking out a new concert grand


> The piano manufacturers do try to get rooms away from the noise. 
> Bluthner was out by the drums and guitars last time I attended  though. 
> Some times of day are better...
>
> YMMV
> Andrew Anderson
>
> On Jul 29, 2009, at 1:22 AM, David Ilvedson wrote:
>
>> I think the NAMM show is a good idea...but can you actually hear the 
>> pianos in all that din...?
>>
>> David Ilvedson, RPT
>> Pacifica, CA  94044
>>
>> ----- Original message ----------------------------------------
>> From: "Andrew Anderson" <andrew at andersonmusic.com>
>> To: caut at ptg.org
>> Received: 7/28/2009 12:41:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: [CAUT] picking out a new concert grand
>>
>>
>>> Sauter does this regularly.  We have had a 7'3" Omega chosen over a
>>> S&S D by a music department after a thorough comparison.  We didn't
>>> have a concert grand available over there at the time.  Usual terms
>>> involve covering the cost of transportation (some dealers will
>>> discount this), adequate onsite security measures and a definite
>>> calender schedule when the selection must be made or the movers will
>>> be scheduled to pick it up.
>>
>>> In all practicality, selection of a concert instrument should be done
>>> onsite by a deliberate process involving the music faculty most
>>> affected (not just the piano faculty but voice and instrumental where
>>> the instrument will be used for accompaniment.)  A technician may
>>> advise in pre-selection to help steer the best pianos into the
>>> selection process.  Several "all Steinway" schools now have a Sauter
>>> to offer a window into the variety of piano tone out there.
>>
>>> When it comes to the finest instruments, there really is no one  "best"
>>> instrument.  If you can get your local dealer to get you a badge to
>>> NAMM in Anaheim (January) go and try the tier-one pianos out.  They
>>> are quite different from each other and spectacular in their own  frame
>>> of reference.  Some features of one make or the other will really  grab
>>> you.  My wife, a fine pianist and formerly quite a loyal Steinway  fan,
>>> was "grabbed" by what she experienced when she first played Sauter.
>>> So now we are authorized dealers as well as myself being a technician
>>> for the local university and arts college.  Makes for an interesting
>>> balancing act when discussing pianos as tech./dealer.
>>
>>> Andrew Anderson
>>
>>> On Jul 28, 2009, at 9:52 AM, Fred Sturm wrote:
>>
>>>> And, BTW, it is quite possible that manufacturers might place a
>>>> piano on site for selection. Definitely worth looking into.
>>>> On Jul 28, 2009, at 8:35 AM, Fred Sturm wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ditto for Sauter. And Shigeru Kawai. Variety of voices.
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Fred Sturm
>>>>> University of New Mexico
>>>>> fssturm at unm.edu
>>>>> "I am only interested in music that is better than it can be
>>>>> played." Schnabel
>>>>> On Jul 28, 2009, at 8:19 AM, reggaepass at aol.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If there is any detectable degree of open-minded-ness where
>>>>>> variety is concerned, consider a Steingreaber.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alan Eder
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: David Ilvedson <ilvey at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>> To: caut at ptg.org
>>>>>> Sent: Mon, Jul 27, 2009 3:23 pm
>>>>>> Subject: [CAUT] picking out a new concert grand
>>>>>>
>>>>>> List,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I probably will be helping pick out some new concert
>>>>>> pianos...different brands.   What advice would you give for what
>>>>>> to look for in a concert instrument...i.e. looking at 4 different
>>>>>> Hamburgs and picking one out...
>>>>>> The hall will be a 850 seat, vineyard style...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David Ilvedson, RPT
>>>>>> Pacifica, CA 94044
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Fred Sturm
>>>> University of New Mexico
>>>> fssturm at unm.edu
>>>> "I am only interested in music that is better than it can be
>>>> played." Schnabel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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