[CAUT] Piano truck acoustics

[David Ilvedson]

That idea had been bounced around the list before the "inventor" came up with idea...

David Ilvedson, RPT
Pacifica, CA  94044

----- Original message ----------------------------------------
From: "Zeno Wood" <zeno.wood at gmail.com>
To: caut at ptg.org
Received: 3/20/2009 3:18:41 PM
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Piano truck acoustics


>I remember about ten years ago Steinway was playing around with a
>lower lid on a concert instrument.  Here's the NY Times link:

>http://www.nytimes.com/1997/12/08/arts/not-even-practice-gets-a-2-lid-piano-into
>-carnegie.html?sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1

>No picture, though.

>-Zeno Wood


>On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Andrew Anderson
><andrew at andersonmusic.com> wrote:
>> Ric,
>> Besides grounding the stage truck so that the big "springing" arms don't
>> absorb a significant per-centage of the pianist's and piano's energy there
>> is the "Under-Lid" to consider.  Seems that I heard about that on this list.
>>  Someone built a rolling box with one side low, and the other side up to the
>> bottom of the piano.  The box was rolled under the piano from the lid hinge
>> side and reflects the pianos energy out to the audience as well.
>>
>> Perhaps someone here is the one who mentioned this and can send us some
>> pictures...?
>>
>> Andrew Anderson
>>
>> On Mar 20, 2009, at 3:48 PM, Richard Brekne wrote:
>>
>>> I've had this idea for years now of trying to build a special acoustic
>>> platform for stage grands with acoustics designed to accent and project
>>> lower frequencies ranges of the piano.... dvs 1500 hz downwards.  There is
>>> no doubt lost acoustic energy that one way or the other either spins out
>>> into oblivion or gets randomly distributed by whatever connection to
>>> whatever floor material there is.  Since the energy is obviously there to
>>> begin with... and since we are always looking for ways of making that nine
>>> footer project bigger in that 3000-5000 seat hall.... why not try and make
>>> use of it intelligently ?
>>>
>>> One of those things that is no doubt beyond my ken to begin with, and I
>>> will never have time to fool with anyways... but keeps hitting my curiosity
>>> lobe.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> RicB
>>>
>>>
>>>  I'm wondering if anyone has any thoughts on the acoustic qualities of
>>>  a piano truck versus having rubber or metal casters.  We have a
>>>  Steinway D (on a truck) in our recital hall that sounds big when
>>>  you're sitting at it, but doesn't sound as big when you're 30 feet
>>>  back, in the audience.  But the Yamaha with big honking metal casters
>>>  doesn't sound as big up close, but sounds bigger from the audience.
>>>  Thoughts?
>>>
>>>  Or am I barking up the wrong tree?
>>>
>>>  Thanks,
>>>  Zeno Wood
>>>  Brooklyn College
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>