[CAUT] glue/hammers

[Paul T Williams]

That's cool!

Where does one get glycerin? How much per ounce of moulding glue?  I'd 
love to hear more of this.

Paul




From:
"Ed  Sutton" <ed440 at mindspring.com>
To:
<caut at ptg.org>
Date:
11/03/2009 03:18 PM
Subject:
Re: [CAUT] glue/hammers



Eugene Thorndahl (of Bjorn Industries, supplier of fine grades of hide 
glue) suggested to me that a small addition of glycerin to the glue would 
prevent shattering of glue in the hammer head, and make for easy removal 
with heat.
[I haven't tested this, or figured out just how much is optimal.]
 
es
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Jim Busby 
To: caut at ptg.org 
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: [CAUT] glue/hammers

Alan,
 
Moulding glue is great. I mainly went back to hide because of its easy 
removal (we replace hammers a lot), strength, ease of use (using the “new” 
techniques) and “foolproof” bond – once you do it right. But moulding glue 
works  VERY well. 
 
But take this class! This fellow (Shepherd) has written two books. One has 
something like “1000 tricks…”  I don’t own that book yet. Stephen Shepherd 
isn’t a piano tech, but he will be teaching the class with Vince who is a 
world-class technician.
 
Best,
Jim
 
From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of 
reggaepass at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 1:51 PM
To: caut at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [CAUT] glue/hammers
 
Henry, 
 
Well, I was about to tell you that I thought moulding glue was the way to 
go, without any equivocation.  But if Jim Busby was humbled by all he 
didn't know about hide glue and is going back to it, I may feel the same 
way after attending Vince's class in Las Vegas.  In the mean time though, 
we have pianos whose hammers are glued on with either hide glue or 
whatever Yamaha, Steinway, Baldwin and Bosendorfer have used over the past 
thirty years.  The hammer sets I have hung using moulding glue are the 
ONLY ones in our inventory that have not developed loose glue joints 
between hammer and shank.  Our RH swings from 10% 60% over the course of 
the year.  YMMV, but if loose hammerheads are an issue in your situation, 
I would give moulding glue a shot.
 
Alan Eder


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Busby <jim_busby at byu.edu>
To: caut at ptg.org <caut at ptg.org>
Sent: Tue, Nov 3, 2009 12:02 pm
Subject: Re: [CAUT] glue/hammers
Hello Henry,
 
I’ve used several glues, moulding glue being the favorite for years, but 
since Vince Mrykalo’s hide glue class I went back to hide. Any problems I 
“thought” I had with hide glue are outweighed by the advantages. Stephen 
Shepherd and Vince will be giving a class in Las Vegas at the convention 
and you may be surprised at how many tricks these guys have. I was humbled 
by all I DIDN’T know. 
 
Jim Busby BYU
 
From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Dr. 
Henry Nicolaides
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 12:42 PM
To: College and University Technicians
Subject: [CAUT] glue/hammers
 
Hi List,

Has anyone used and had success with other type glues in replacement of 
hammers?  I've been wondering about the new Titebond white Moulding and 
Trim glue as well as the yellow glues.  Seems like out of the bottle 
application would be an advantage especially when it is not anticipated to 
remove the hammer at a later date.  Ease of use vs. ease of changing out 
hammers periodically.?

Henry Nicolaides
Piano Technician, School of Music
Southern Illinois University
Carbondale, Illinois 62901

henryn at siu.edu

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