[CAUT] Jeanie's brain storm - was Boston changed to dealers...

DCyr141833 at aol.com DCyr141833 at aol.com
Tue Nov 24 10:25:09 MST 2009


Don,
Bravo, Bravo!!!
 
Debbie  Cyr
Registered Piano Technician
508-202-2862 cell
617-227-2357 NBSS  

 
In a message dated 11/24/2009 11:49:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
DMannino at kawaius.com writes:

Wim,  I'm sorry but your idealistic statements do not reflect an 
understanding of  how the piano business operates.  Let me give you an example that 
may be  close enough to home that you will understand the manufacturer / 
dealer  relationship:
 
When  a customer calls for the first time to schedule a tuning appointment, 
do you  tell them that you only accept customers who have their piano tuned 
at least  twice a year, and have full service appointments once per  year?
 
Piano dealers are the customers of the  manufacturers. This is especially 
true during slow economic times - the  primary goal is to support the piano 
dealer, provide the best pianos possible  at the best price possible, and 
give them the guidance and tools to represent  the product in a quality manner. 
 Dealers are chosen more for financial  stability and proven sales 
performance over time than anything else.  Bad  dealers who sell cheap, don't prep 
or and give bad service generally do not  stay in business very long, and 
this weeds them out naturally to some  degree.
 
Part  of the relationship involves cajoling the dealer into using a quality 
 technician, and prepping their pianos.  But the idea that a manufacturer  
can go to a dealer and say "either hire an RPT and prep every piano, or you  
can't be our dealer any longer" is very naiive.  Well, there is one  
manufacturer that might get away with this occasionally, but that's about  it.
 
As  for training, when sales are low training also is forced to be cut 
back.   All of this talk about factory seminars is wonderful - but this costs 
money,  and takes a huge amount of time for staff members who are already 
overloaded  with other work.  When business is good enough to be able to afford 
a  larger support staff, then more training is done.  But training does not, 
 in my direct experience, guaranty that any technician will actually do 
good  work.  That is why no piano company allows people to be called factory  
"Trained" or "Certified" or even "Authorized" except in very limited  cases.
 
Let  me ask another question: Have you ever had a musician listen to a  
bell choir and say "gee, why don't they play the chords together?"   
Immediately, that person becomes correctly labeled in your mind as someone who  has 
never played in a bell choir, as bell players know that even professional  
bell groups strike chords a little out of sinc here and there.  The  critical 
comment might have been borne of innocence, but to a bell director or  player 
it was annoying.  Your advice to the critic would be to not try to  give 
advice to people until actually understanding what's  involved.
 
So,  to every technician who wants to tell dealers or manufacturers how 
they should  do business, rather than expecting others to make things better, 
take  some small steps to build relationships through your own actions.  Call 
 manufacturers for guidance when needed.  Get prior approval whenever  
possible from the manufacturer when warranty service is needed, or call  (or 
e-mail) and explain, with complete information on the piano, before  sending a 
bill when prior approval is not possible.  When a new  piano is delivered in 
sub-par condition, say nothing to the customer  unless the customer is 
complaining, but speak face to face with the dealer and  explain that you liked 
the piano, but you noticed a few issues.  Ask the  dealer: If the customer 
becomes bothered by these issues, would the dealer  agree to have you spend 
an hour or so to correct them?  There are ways to  build relationships with 
dealers and manufacturers that makes you the good  guy, so that they know you 
are someone who can help them resolve  problems.  But this starts with the 
attitude and personality of the  technician.
 
In  my experience, the personal attitude of the local technicians has a 
greater  influence on dealer relations with the techs, and dealer willingness 
to spend  money on prep and service, than anything a manufacturer will do or 
say.   The tech can't turn an idiot dealer into a genius, but with 
considerate  comments, kind suggestions, and doing favors (such as a sample prep job  
done at a reduced rate) which lead the dealer to understand how much  
better the prepped pianos will sell, produces better results than anyone  
demanding anything.
 
Don  Mannino RPT
 


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From: caut-bounces at ptg.org  [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of  
wimblees at aol.com
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 11:26  PM
To: caut at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Jeanie's brain  storm - was Boston changed to dealers...


One, is that manufactures should put together some sort of  training 
program that can be taught at PTG sponsored seminars, where, over a  period of 
time, technicians could take the courses necessary to become  "factory 
trained". The second thing is that manufactures offer the title of  "factory 
trained" automatically to all RPT's. I realize that just because  someone has 
passed the RPT exams doesn't automatically make them as  qualified as perhaps 
someone who has attended a Yamaha or Steinway  training sessions, but someone 
who is an RPT has to be better than a  rank beginner, as described before.   
 
But these training sessions won't do a bit of good  unless the manufactures 
strongly encourage, if not demand, their dealers to  use RPT's, or "factory 
trained" technicians to do the prep work.  The emphases here is that it is 
the manufacturers who are responsible to  make sure their instruments are 
properly prepped at the dealers.  Without that requirement, it will never 
happen. Mark asked what should they  do if a dealer doesn't hire qualified 
techs. That question should not even  need to be asked, because one of the 
requirements to be a Yamaha, (or  Steinway, or Samick,) dealer should be to have a 
qualified tech on  staff, or at least available, if it is a smaller store 
that doesn't need a  full time tech. 

Wim




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