I've been using the Fujan as well - starting with the aluminum and moving on to the carbon fiber. It's a great tool. I had my hammer in an 11" total length version to fit my tuning kit, and recently bought the 2" extension tube. Now I use it all the time in the 13" length - way better control, and I can break it down to two pieces to still fit my kit. Jeff Stickney reggaepass at aol.com wrote: > The good news, Kevin, is that wonderful things await you in the realm > of improved tuning levers. Like brother Porritt, I too have a Fujan > (although mine is more recent, carbon fiber). Wow, what an > improvement over what I was previously using! The quantum leap in > stiffness means less strain on you and much more nuanced control of > the tuning pin. As David says below, once you've tried one of these > new innovations, you won't look back. For grands, I look forward to > trying Dan Levitan's new design (much posted about this on the > Bechstein B thread that launched this line of discussion), as soon as > Marinelli gets it into production. > > Alan Eder > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Porritt, David <dporritt at mail.smu.edu> > To: caut at ptg.org <caut at ptg.org> > Sent: Wed, Oct 21, 2009 2:29 pm > Subject: Re: [CAUT] Tuning hammer technique and latest tuning hammers > (Kevin Fortenberry) > > Kevin: > > I bought a Fujan a couple of years ago and have never looked back. Mine is old > enough that it's the aluminum tube so it's a little heavier than the new carbon > ones, but it works very well for me. The stiffness. Once you've used a lever > that stiff, nothing else feels right. > > dp > > > David M. Porritt, RPT > dporritt at smu.edu <mailto:dporritt at smu.edu> > > > -----Original Message----- > From: caut-bounces at ptg.org <mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org> [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org <mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org?>] On Behalf Of > Fortenberry, Kevin > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:34 PM > To: caut at ptg.org <mailto:caut at ptg.org> > Subject: Re: [CAUT] Tuning hammer technique and latest tuning hammers (Kevin > Fortenberry) > > List, I am really enjoying the discussion on hammer technique, and after > reading and thinking about the last post from Fred, I was tuning a Hamilton in > the bass and switched to my right hand (which I started doing about 10 years ago > after running into tremendous wrist, elbow and shoulder pain) and noticed that I > do hold my hammer at 2 to 3 o'clock on many occasions. I also have evolved over > the years into a very similar technique to what you guys are describing. I will > continue to observe and try to improve further. Thanks for this! By the way, > after a few months of using both hands to tune, all my pain is gone (except for > "tuner's neck" of course). > > My question is: I really need to invest in a new hammer, and I thought maybe > some of you could share with the list what hammer/s you like the best and why. I > am interested in the Jahn extendable from Pianotek; the Charles faulk hammers > seem really nice; and then there are the new carbon fiber shank ones like Fuyan, > etc. I know this could be a can of worms because everyone has to choose what > works for them, but I would really like to know what some of you all have > selected for use in a real world. I have been using one of 2 hammers, my old > Apsco ext with a ball added on, and a Schaff rosewood ext.-also added a ball a > few years ago. > > Thanks to all. Kevin Fortenberry > ________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 21:34:41 -0400 > From: "Ed Sutton" <ed440 at mindspring.com <mailto:ed440 at mindspring.com>> > Yes, that is correct, and it seems to be important in making the hammer very > rigid. > es > > Subject: Re: [CAUT] Bechstein model B tuning stability > > > If memory serves, no. Part of Dan's approach is to have all joints welded > together for extra rigidity. Can someone else verify this? > > Alan Eder > > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Ilvedson <ilvey at sbcglobal.net <mailto:ilvey at sbcglobal.net>> > > Subject: Re: [CAUT] Bechstein model B tuning stability > > > I remember Dan's article and the photo of the hammer. Seems rather > large...does it break down for transport? > > David Ilvedson, RPT > Pacifica, CA 94044 > > Subject: Re: [CAUT] Bechstein model B tuning stability > On Oct 18, 2009, at 11:07 AM, Ed Sutton wrote: > > >> Fred- > >> > >> The point of Dan Levitan's over-the-stretcher lever is not to > >> "eliminate flagpoling." The point is to eliminate unintentional > >> flagpoling. You are free to control flagpoling in all directions, > >> with or witout rotational forces. > >> > >> In a standard tuning lever, whenever you apply rotational force, you > >> are also applying a certain amount of tilting force, proportional to > >> the "rise" of the handle from the pin in the block, in the direction > >> you are pushing the handle to rotate the pin. > >> > >> In Dan's over-the-stretcher lever, there is no rise, so if you > >> rotate, you only rotate. But you are also free to tilt the pin in > >> any direction, intentionally, not accidentally. It's not at odds > >> with your approach, it's a more controllable version of your approach. > >> > >> Ed > > > OK, fair enough. I "eliminate" the undesired tilt from the equation > >by using a 12 o'clock position (11 to 1, to be precise), meaning the > >tilt is at very close to 90 degrees from the string, and has minimal > >effect on the string. That works well for me. Dan's design is > >intriguing, but would require a major re-learning of technique. Which > >is not necessarily a bad thing. Sometimes starting again from scratch > >is a good way to leave bad habits behind. Dan's design also > >essentially requires the hammer be in line with the string, for > >geometrical reasons (though 6 o'clock instead of 12 for a grand). So > >the technique would be the same - lean the pin towards or away from > >the string for the given purpose. > >Regards, > >Fred Sturm > >University of New Mexico > >fssturm at unm.edu <mailto:fssturm at unm.edu> > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/caut.php/attachments/20091018/6313d3a4/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > CAUT mailing list > CAUT at ptg.org <mailto:CAUT at ptg.org> > http://ptg.org/mailman/listinfo/caut > > > End of CAUT Digest, Vol 12, Issue 52 > ************************************
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