I think to clarify what I am trying to say is (and I've said it before), the usical skills one needs to be a very good piano technician do not require a ery expensive college degree in music, and a music degree will confer very ittle of the knowledge and skill needed to be an excellent college piano echnician. If a piano technician feels he/she needs a college degree, the degree which will enefit him/her most will be a degree in business administration. Far more of hat we do is taught there than in the music school. There is no college degree or the manual labor skills required of our work. That's got to come from your other and father's chromosomes. And, I'm not so convinced that those same hromosomes can't also contain the musical aptitude required as well. eff Jeff We've talked about this before, but let me give you my perception on this. Any college degree in any field is not the end of the education line. Most employers who hire graduates for any field do so with the understanding that the first 6 - 12 months of employment will be a learning period for the graduate because there is so much more to a "job", than what is leaned in the classroom. But, there still is value in the degree that person earned. If anything, the education one got in any particular field give that student a basic understanding of what the profession is all about, whether it is accounting, engineering, computer science, art, or music. Without that basic understanding, there is nothing to build from, When it come to being a piano technician, while I agree that the degree in music, technically, is not directly related, but someone with a degree in music at least has a basic understand of what happens in a music department, something that in most schools, would be a big plus. Someone who has never set foot in a music department might not have the basic understanding of practice room etiquette, a need for rehearsal time, or the importance of having a piano prepped in time for that Saturday night concert. Wim -----Original Message----- From: tannertuner <tannertuner at bellsouth.net> To: caut <caut at ptg.org> Sent: Wed, Aug 11, 2010 1:10 pm Subject: Re: [CAUT] U. of Northern Iowa position I think to clarify what I am trying to say is (and I've said it before), the usical skills one needs to be a very good piano technician do not require a ery expensive college degree in music, and a music degree will confer very ittle of the knowledge and skill needed to be an excellent college piano echnician. If a piano technician feels he/she needs a college degree, the degree which will enefit him/her most will be a degree in business administration. Far more of hat we do is taught there than in the music school. There is no college degree or the manual labor skills required of our work. That's got to come from your other and father's chromosomes. And, I'm not so convinced that those same hromosomes can't also contain the musical aptitude required as well. eff --- On Wed, 8/11/10, tannertuner <tannertuner at bellsouth.net> wrote: > From: tannertuner <tannertuner at bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: [CAUT] U. of Northern Iowa position To: caut at ptg.org Date: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 6:29 PM Based on my experience and education background, it is a misconception that having (or pursuing) a music degree gives one a better understanding of music and musicians, nor does it mean one can or cannot play. The collegiate system of earning academic credit hours is a grossly inefficient method of teaching music. Ask those folks who wrote that music Mr. Schnabel was speaking of where they got their music degrees. Pursuing a music degree can help those who are inclined, but at the same time the collegiate system may be also guilty of holding them back. Jeff Tanner --- On Tue, 8/10/10, Don <pianotuna at accesscomm.ca> wrote: > From: Don <pianotuna at accesscomm.ca> > Subject: Re: [CAUT] U. of Northern Iowa position > To: caut at ptg.org > Date: Tuesday, August 10, 2010, 5:08 AM > Hi Tanner, > > That is nothing--except good taste and a better > understanding of music and > musicians. I do not say you can not be a wonderful > technician/tuner if you > do not play--but it surely helps. > > At 06:27 AM 8/10/2010 -0700, you wrote: > >I'm always baffled as to why they would require a > bachelors degree in > music. Nothing learned in the curriculum of a music degree > prepares you for > the responsibilities of a piano technician. An appreciation > and ear for > music is all that is ever required. Inventory management, > record keeping, > manual dexterity, acknowledgement of physics and > engineering, and common > sense are not taught in the music department. > > > >(and, yes, I do see that they have somehow justified > that an associates > degree and 3 years experience as a professional tech, or > high school and 6 > years experience may be substituted. But where is the logic > in that? > Doesn't this logic somehow suggest that the music degree > substitutes for > experience as a professional piano technician?) > > > >As for the 1/2 time position, they probably need a full > time person or two. > > > >Tanner > Regards, > Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.P.T. > Non calor sed umor est qui nobis incommodat > > mailto:pianotuna at yahoo.com > http://www.donrose.ca/ > > 3004 Grant Rd. REGINA, SK, S4S 5G7 > 306-539-0716 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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