Hi Paul Don Wigent here. It is possible to take wate off the hammers by taking wood from the inside of the hammer tales, If there is some wood to remove. Remember 1 gram at the hammer equals 5 at the key. If you should deside to remove some wood from the inside of the hammer tale, use a small drumb sander on some sort of drill pres or some thing. It can be dun by hand no jig needed.. Between the removal of wood and proper regulation you will have less tw Don Wigent PS Don't get wigged out just do your job.. -----Original Message----- From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Paul Milesi, RPT Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 4:54 PM To: PTG CAUT List Subject: [CAUT] Down Weight Too High With New Hammers I installed pre-hung S&S hammers on the '70 S&S D, forced to use original repetitions because of budget considerations. With the regulation only "roughed in," the down weight feels too high to me when I play it. Now I find it's measuring in the range of 55-60 grams throughout. I have addressed friction in every area except removing and cleaning repetitions. I can't believe rep spring grooves, etc., would make that much of a difference; they don't seem that bad. The new hammers are hung on NY improved shanks with knuckle further out. I compared hammer/shank/flange #44 from the original and new sets, and there is, if I remember correctly, about a 2 gram difference. But the originals are so beat, I don't know if it's a very meaningful comparison. Would mixing original 1970 reps with NYI H/S/F cause the geometry to be that different? I was told by David Kirkland that I could "make it work," although using older repetitions wasn't first choice. I know the hammer weight changed in 1984, but understood that using NYI shanks and flanges would be all the compensation that was needed for the additional weight. By the way, the upweight measures roughly 28-30g. Also a little high, no? And it seems to me there's a lot of lead in the keys, but I'm definitely no expert. Doesn't this imply a somewhat too-heavy hammer? I don't mean to be taking any shortcuts here, but there are time constraints and a balance/compromise that must be struck with all the other instruments I'm responsible for. This one is starting to drown me. Just wondering if this touchweight issue is common when putting new hammers on a Steinway D from this period, and if there is a typical or common remedy or approach to solving the problem. This is only my 3rd set of hammers, and my first set completely on my own. I'm thinking of attending the PTG hammer hanging class with Mike Carraher and Keith Bowman in October. Any thoughts on whether I'll learn skills in addition to hanging (determining bore angle, etc. and boring hammers, I assume?) that might help me fix this? Will they address how to arrive at final touch weight? I want to learn! Guess I should contact Mike or Keith. OK, now I've exposed my near-total ignorance in this area and am embarrassed. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. -- Paul Milesi, RPT Staff Piano Technician Howard University Department of Music Washington, DC
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