Two things about "mandatory" attendance requirements. One, the instructor should not be saddled with signing off on who attended the class. As Dave just pointed out, many instructors answer questions after a class, and if he/she had to sign attendance papers, it would detract from that. That job should be left to class monitors. Second, if attendance at certain classes will be required to maintain certification, it might become necessary to pre-schedule for the more popular classes. Or at most, the monitors would need to limit the number of people who come in the class, to make sure fire safety rules are not violated. Just something to keep in mind. Wim -----Original Message----- From: Porritt, David <dporritt at mail.smu.edu> To: caut <caut at ptg.org> Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 3:25 am Subject: Re: [CAUT] Retesting Israel: If continuing education were required for maintaining RPT status, taking a class nd answering some questions would no longer be a gold star but a professional nhancement. The problem - as I saw it - with the Passport program was that not oing it had no consequences. So, when I took a class and the instructor was oo busy chatting with a friend to be able to sign my form I just left. If I ad needed that signature to maintain my credentials, I'd have waited. dp David M. Porritt, RPT porritt at smu.edu -----Original Message----- rom: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Israel tein ent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 1:25 AM o: caut at ptg.org ubject: [CAUT] Retesting Wed, 28 Jul 2010 00:00:48 -0400 "Ed Sutton" <ed440 at mindspring.com> wrote: I do not assume that there is a necessary linkage between continuing education redits and recertification exams. The RPT certification and recertification is/would be a category in itself. Continuing education credits as a voluntary demonstration of efforts to expand nd maintain lifelong learning can be another category. The Passport to Exellence program had no bearing on RPT status. Ed d, The starting point of this discussion was an attempt to find ways to nhance the RPT certification so that it would have more credibility and isibility in institutional hiring. The above is just a "feel good" dea, that might spark some initial interest, but will very likely peter ut - because there are no real incentives or enhancements involved. he Passport to Excellence program petered out - partly because of dministrative problems, and mostly due to lack of interest. Personally find the idea of handing out "gold stars" to adults (whatever shape r form they might take) in a continuing-education-for-its-own-sake cheme pretty - well - insulting. And it probably is not a very good otivator - it wasn't for testing, when the RPT program amounted to othing more than a big "gold star", and it won't be with continuing ducation either. This is the sort of thing that denigrates rather than nhances our professional standing. These sort of internal "beauty ontest" tests and quizzes might massage some egos, but they won't do uch to improve our professional standing (or, I suspect, the pursuit of ontinuing education among our members). Continuing education requirements for maintaining the RPT certification an have a major positive effect on its credibility and marketability. ithout this sort of tie-in -well, frankly speaking, there are more dvantageous ways of using the resources and energies of this rganization than developing and maintaining an administrative apparatus hose sole purpose is to hand out "gold stars". Israel Stein -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/caut.php/attachments/20100728/8d200195/attachment.htm>
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