[CAUT] Toughest piece for piano stability?

[Horace Greeley]

Hi, Alan, 

Yes...I've hoping that Ron would chime in.

While I think it would be cool for supply houses to at least have this kind of thing available as a service, they can't really do that until there's enough demand...and that implies acceptance of this process by a fair percentage of active technicians.  This is still pretty much bleeding edge technology for piano work, so I suspect that it will be some time, if ever, before this would be a commercially viable service for a supply house to provide.

Best.

Horace

"Alan Eder" <reggaepass at aol.com> wrote:

>Hi Horace, et. al.,
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>In terms of the electorless nickel plating:
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>Isn't that what Ron Overs does to his agraffes?  When I first read about it, I encouraged Bob Marinelli to handle such an item, but so far no dice.  Maybe if there is more widespread interest, it will happen. 
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>Alan Eder
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Horace Greeley <hgreeley at sonic.net>
>To: caut <caut at ptg.org>
>Sent: Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:22 am
>Subject: Re: [CAUT] Toughest piece for piano stability?
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>Hi, Alan,
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>At 09:22 AM 11/15/2010, you wrote:
>>Enjoyed your post.
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>Thanks.
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>>  Regarding these agraffes, where does one purchase these?
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>I'm not sure.  I used to get them from Bosendorfer, but used up the 
>last of that supply a year or so ago and haven't really looked 
>since.  Brent might know.
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>>  And for that matter, is there a third-party supplier of pinned agraffes?
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>Not sure...maybe Jurgen or Jahn.  I don't think anything like that 
>has been made in the U.S. since the middle of the 19th Century, and 
>then only as pilots and/or for patent purposes.  Del might know more 
>about that part...wish Harold Conklin were still with us, I'm sure he 
>could shed some light, too.
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>In terms of the electorless nickel plating:  What I've done so far 
>is, I admit, not terribly scientific.  I get appropriate agraffes, 
>polish them in a tumbling rock polisher until they sparkle plenty 
>(thanks to those who pick that one up), and then take them to 
>whatever plater is willing to play with small lot jobs that don't pay 
>very well.
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>In the SF Bay area, there are a couple of places which have done this 
>with good results:
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>http://www.eps-plating.com/
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>http://www.electro-coatings.com/
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>If I were doing production rebuilding the way some on this list do, I 
>might look for places outside CA for this kind of work.  The CA 
>version of the EPA (and, especially the five counties around the Bay) 
>have exceptionally strict (and very expensive) controls on this kind 
>of processing, so the costs aren't low.  On the other hand, the fact 
>that firms like this are active here also means that the business is 
>sufficiently lucrative for them to stay.
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>In any event, as we so often discuss on this list, if you want 
>quality work, you have to pay for it...
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>Sorry I can't be of more help with the pinned agraffes.  I'm sure 
>someone else will have better answers.
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>Best.
>
>Horace
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>>Thanks.
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>>Alan
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>>-- Alan McCoy, RPT
>>Eastern Washington University
>><amccoy at ewu.htm>amccoy at ewu.edu
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>>From: Horace Greeley <<hgreeley at sonic.htm>hgreeley at sonic.net>
>>Reply-To: CAUTlist <<caut at ptg.htm>caut at ptg.org>
>>Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 00:44:47 -0800
>>To: CAUTlist <<caut at ptg.htm>caut at ptg.org>
>>Subject: Re: [CAUT] Toughest piece for piano stability?
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>>After
>>playing with this a bit, I'm pretty sure that I would go with the
>>electroless nickel plated agraffes (and, probably bridge pins).
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