I have the same reservations about the glovers needles and the chemical feast that has been tried on hammers. Alfred Knight said the felt makers hated doping. I take a somewhat jaundiced view of doping, though it is unfortunately necessary. Good hammers can be made without. Ted ________________________________ From: Susan Kline <skline at peak.org> To: caut at ptg.org Sent: Thu, November 18, 2010 8:16:03 PM Subject: Re: [CAUT] Chopstick tool needles? Thanks, Ted and Marcel. It's fun to think of using needles specifically chosen for voicing work. I believe I remember some altercation years ago about the damage which can be done to hammer felt with glovers needles. I like to minimize wear and tear on hammer felt to the extent practical, which is one reason I prefer one drop of vodka to needling in the top octave, where the felt is thin and heavily doped. If the economy continues down its rocky slope one little collapse at a time, we might start thinking about how our work affects the longevity of parts. I sometimes wonder whether the accumulation of *stuff* in hammers, either to harden or to soften (Downy -- YUCK), lessens the variety of tone which they can produce, and also reduces their lifespan. Maybe others have some ideas about this? Susan On 11/18/2010 4:47 PM, Edward Sambell wrote: Hi Susan, > >The diameter of a #5 needle is .030" and a #6 is .027". I also use >cotton darners, which are .035", but do not know the number, if any. >Jurgen's web site I\is; www.pianofortesupply.com. I haven't tried glovers >needles, which are triangular. > >Regards, Ted S > > > > > > ________________________________ From: Susan Kline <skline at peak.org> >To: caut at ptg.org >Sent: Thu, November 18, 2010 6:16:03 PM >Subject: Re: [CAUT] Chopstick tool needles? > >Hi, Don > >I keep a big needle in a pin vise for shoulders, but most of the >time I > >use the chopstick tool with a thin needle and about 1/3" exposed .. >I > >imagine 7's would do for that if I pay attention and pull it >straight > >out instead of letting it lever at an angle, which I think may be >how I > >broke the VERY tip off the old one on Tuesday. > >I should get in touch with Jurgen. I'm sure he carries some other >things > >which I might like. Does he have a website? I should already know >such > >things -- I've been sort of out of touch lately. > >Susan > >On 11/18/2010 9:23 AM, Don Mannino wrote: >> Susan, >> >> Fabric stores usually sell #6 sharps, and they work. But I really >>like the German ones from Jurgen. #7 is a little thinner, and >>therefore weaker - but maybe that's OK if you don't make them too >>long. >> >> Don Mannino >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf >>Of Susan Kline >> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 9:01 AM >> To: caut at ptg.org >> Subject: Re: [CAUT] Chopstick tool needles? >> >> Thanks, Diane, I'll give that a try. I need to replenish the kit >>before I break just one more, or need to unclog a CA glue bottle >>again. I go years without breaking a chopstick needle, but if I >>don't have a replacement with me, Murphy's Law might break one >>sooner than usual. >> >> Susan >> >> On 11/18/2010 8:01 AM, Diane Hofstetter wrote: >>> Susan, >>> >>> I thought I would leave it for someone more knowledgeable than me, >>>but since no one has replied, I will take a stab at it. #7 sharps >>>? >>> >>> >>> Diane >>> >>> >>> Diane Hofstetter >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>>> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:51:55 -0800 >>>> From: skline at peak.org >>>> To: caut at ptg.org >>>> Subject: [CAUT] Chopstick tool needles? >>>> >>>> >>>> Yesterday I was voicing before a concert, and for only the >second >>>> time ever I broke the tip off the needle in my chopstick voicing >>>> tool. I got out the needle case I keep in an old pill container in >>>>my >>>> kit, which also luckily held the tiny allen key for the >>chopstick, >>>> and I found that I had exactly one needle left in there. Plus I >>>had >>>> used it multiple times to open clogged CA glue bottle spouts. >>>>Luckily >>>> when I broke it in two to make it short enough, the CA came off >>>it. >>>> >>>> Anyway, years ago I had some idea which needles to buy for this >>>>kind >>>> of voicing, but now I'm drawing a blank. I've been using a >fairly >>>> small "sharps" needle. Does anyone have any hints about what size >>>>and >>>> type I should get? I leave about 1/3 of an inch exposed. >>>> >>>> thanks ... >>>> >>>> Susan Kline >>>> >>>> P.S. Tuned and voiced for Jon Nakamatsu and Jon Manasse yesterday >>>>-- >>>> what gents, what musicians! >>>> >> >> >> > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/caut.php/attachments/20101118/9c1a47a9/attachment.htm>
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