[CAUT] Yamaha Avant Grand Digital questions

Paul T Williams pwilliams4 at unlnotes.unl.edu
Mon Oct 4 16:07:14 MDT 2010


Hi all,

I'm in the middle of making an attachment buffer thingy to help this thing 
out. I'll be finished with it about Wednesday and will post pics.  I 
should patent it and make milllions.   But then again, I don't think 
Yamaha will sell a lot of these to institutions.  It's a nice digital for 
a place with no space or will move it much....like a cruise ship or 
something....Actually, that should be the perfect place for these things. 
A cruise ship, small spaced bars, clubs, etc. Sorry to all you guys who 
tune for cruise ships. OK Yamaha 10% gratuity for the lead!

Paul




From:
Albert Picknell <agghubii at yahoo.ca>
To:
caut at ptg.org
Date:
10/04/2010 04:47 PM
Subject:
Re: [CAUT] Yamaha Avant Grand Digital questions




Hi Paul
 
For what it's worth, the loaners we had here for the summer were just 
taken away on Friday.  The movers took off the bass leg first and stood 
the instrument up on the bass end, just like you do with a regular grand 
piano (of course there's a big difference between the Avant grand and a 
regular grand piano, in that the bass side is only about a foot and a half 
long, if that!).  The movers did not use a skid board, but strapped the 
instrument directly to their dolly (which necessitated a third person to 
keep the dolly immobilized while the instrument was being stood up on it). 
 They padded the dolly with a moving blanket and strapped the instrument 
to it with two straps which went parallel to each other right up over the 
top.  It was a little awkward getting the instrument onto the dolly, and 
the movers clearly do NOT like moving these things, but it did work.
 
Another fiftieth of a dollar...
Bert

--- On Sun, 10/3/10, Paul T Williams <pwilliams4 at unlnotes.unl.edu> wrote:

From: Paul T Williams <pwilliams4 at unlnotes.unl.edu>
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Yamaha Avant Grand Digital questions
To: caut at ptg.org
Received: Sunday, October 3, 2010, 3:06 PM

Thanks Brad, 

Unfortunately, I studied this idea and this won't be the answer either. 
There would be no way for the second strap to grab anything on the far end 
of the piano as it's really a near triangular shaped thing with two strait 
sides on each end 2' wide at the keyboard end. When I build this thing 
tomorrow and Tuesday, I'll get yall a picture of it.  This is a very 
strange shaped PSO.....not really the other digital short grands we've all 
seen in the past..like your nice image. 

What I'm wondering is why Yamaha didn't think of this already, as they 
must have known some institutions would be wanting these units as well.   

I guess I should patent whatever I come up with and retire <G>. 

Thanks for your guesstimate on what might be done. 

Best, 
Paul 




From: 
"Brad Smith, RPT" <pianotech at smithpiano.com> 
To: 
caut at ptg.org 
Date: 
10/01/2010 05:47 PM 
Subject: 
Re: [CAUT] Yamaha Avant Grand Digital questions




Agreed, construction may be the solution.
 
Another idea ( easier construction job ) would be to add a pair of 2x4 
"feet" to your skid board....one at each at about 6inches from the ends of 
the board. 

They become anchor points for straps that can apply opposing force as you 
tie down the piano. 

I've made skidboards with these type of "feet" installed.   Also done a 
couple where they are removable, using counter sunk machine bolts and T 
nuts flush mounted to the surface of the skidboard, ( under the covering 
of the skidboard )
http://hzshenai.en.china.cn/selling-leads/detail,1080255090,Tee-Nuts-T-Nuts.html


The placement of these feet help position the dolly in the same place each 
time. 

I attached a screen shot of this setup made in Google Sketchup. 


-- 
--
Brad Smith
www.SmithPiano.com 



On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Paul T Williams <
pwilliams4 at unlnotes.unl.edu> wrote: 
I think the wedge will have to be constructed.  Even if I put 
downwards,(towards the far end of the piano) there would still only be two 
feet and a little bit on the board with a different angle and no 90 degree 
place to put any strap on it.  Perhaps I should design and patent it and 
make some bucks!??!! 

I'm also wondering why Yamaha didn't think of this when designing it.  I 
realize this piano wasn't really designed for institutional use, but 
perhaps it should have been thought out better.  I certainly wouldn't put 
it on a moving board and into a truck to go to our East Campus without 
some sort of better support. It would certainly have dire consequences.  I 
sure wish I could have seen them uncrate it at the Yamaha store when it 
arrived! It didn't even come with a bench! :>( 

Best, 
Paul 

 
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