Thanks for the explanation Keith. That makes more sense than the first one I received. My original email was meant not meant to be sent to the caut list. That's my mistake. I didn't realize it was being sent to the caut list until after I sent it. Bob knew knows I mean. I just get filled with sheer frustration sometimes with the bureaucracy that seems to goes into almost everything. Red tape galore wherever. A part of life? Sure, I still don't like it. J For example, I have to have my right knee worked on this coming Feb. I'm 50. Therefore, EVERYONE over 50 according to their rules and regulations, must have an EKG and/or a full physical. Now, whether that is to cover their own butts or not, well, whatever. Yet, if I was 48? Or 49? I wouldn't have to do it. I'm 54, so, there goes more $$$$ out of pocket. Even though I just recently had hernia surgery this past September, because it was NOT DONE IN Michigan, it "doesn't count." That sort of thing is a load of crap I think. ;) Jer From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Keith Roberts Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 12:59 AM To: caut at ptg.org Subject: Re: [CAUT] HVAC codes - piano stability Building codes are updated every 3 years. This saves a lot of money and hassle, yet keeps codes current with the changing times. This is mandated by law. Most states adopt a standard code like BOCA or UBC and add amendments. That is why the state code adoption is behind the national code adoption. Every local building dept can amend codes to fit the needs of your community. Each dept is different. Some utilize UPC and UBC and others Boca plumbing. Fire code is a national standard that supercedes all building codes. The reality is; this costs more to install. More codes, more money. You need to get the powers that be to fork out the money. Do a cost evaluation versus the accellerated depreciation. Make it look like they are taking a hit in the pocketbook. Show them how this will allow you to attend to more important artistic needs. Layout your calender for them. Say, "Look, you are paying me this much to counteract the effects of the heating/ air system when my job description thinks it should be for voicing and fine tuning." Let a marketing student blow it up with visual aids that expresses the urgency to take care of this. Find a friend in the heating /air business. They have pianos too. Don't blame your ignorance on the idiocy of the system. It has enough problems of it's own. Keith Roberts On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Fred Sturm <fssturm at unm.edu> wrote: Actually, it is the way the world wags. And it is good advice: if you can get ASHRAE to include something in a code, that becomes a national standard, often adopted by states and local governments by reference. Not easy by any means, but it is the practical way of achieving a result, much more easily than trying to persuade every single individual project to meet that standard. On Jan 11, 2011, at 6:19 PM, Gerald Groot wrote: Sheesh, sounds like a pile of B.S. to me! From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of itunepiano at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 7:57 PM To: caut at ptg.org Subject: [CAUT] HVAC codes - piano stability Dear List, I contacted the Department in Florida regarding our building codes not requiring humidifiers in HVAC systems. The codes in Florida contain max RH levels, but not minimum RH levels. I received the following response: Mr. Maret: This is a followup to our conversation about his issue of humidity in certain types of buildings under winter conditions. As I mentioned, anyone can propose a change to the Code, but a code change cycle is not open at this time. For information on how to propose a code change go to the following web address: http://www.floridabuilding.org/cm/cm_faq.aspx. As you will see, we are currently 2/3 of the way through the process to put a "2010" code in place by the end of 2011. The next cycle should open in early 2013. I also mentioned that you or any association you belong to probably should get involved in the American Society of Heating, Refrigerating and Air-conditioning Engineers (ashrae.org <http://ashrae.org/> ) and/or International Code Council (iccsafe.org <http://iccsafe.org/> ) update processes. These are the base documents that Florida's code relies on for updates. Again, if I can be of further assistance, I can be reached at (850) 488-0964. Ann Stanton Bob Maret University of Central Florida Regards, Fred Sturm fssturm at unm.edu http://www.createculture.org/profile/FredSturm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/caut.php/attachments/20110112/2c1d4428/attachment-0001.htm>
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