[CAUT] How much voicing on new NY hammers/ Re-visited

Dennis Johnson johnsond at stolaf.edu
Fri Jan 14 11:46:03 MST 2011


I am today just pushing a finished action job for a B back into the piano.
For first time in my career, due to time restrictions, I decided to try
pre-glued hammers as Paul was talking about.  I'm extremely happy with the
shanks and flanges.  Best I've seen from the factory yet.  The hammers look
great, but not quite so enthusiastic about the tone so far.  Still working
on that and right now waiting for a class to get out so I can check latest
results.  Previous 2 sets of factory hammers I was pleased with, so
hopefully these will open up.

Dennis.

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Paul T Williams <
pwilliams4 at unlnotes.unl.edu> wrote:

> I am extremely pleased with the shanks and flanges that came with these
> hammers.  I think I only had to travel 4 or 5 of them! I'll get them again
> on the next project.
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>  From:
> Kent Swafford <kswafford at gmail.com>
> To: caut at ptg.org Date: 01/14/2011 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [CAUT] How much
> voicing on new NY hammers/ Re-visited
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> It's funny. Before I came into check email, I was hanging sample genuine
> Steinway hammers on a D I have in the shop, and was very happy with the
> sound of those samples.
>
> In the last few years, you know, there has been a transition in the
> Steinway factory to the current pre-lacquered hammers, and that transition
> may account for some of the variation we have seen, as they have adjusted
> things to suit their needs.
>
> The last 2 sets seem to have been both similar to each other and pleasing
> to me. If they are gonna be like the last 2 sets for a while, then I'll be
> happy with Steinway hammers.
>
> BTW, the last two or three sets of Steinway shanks & flanges I have gotten
> have been the best I've ever seen, from _any_ manufacturer.
>
> Ask again in a few months.
>
> Kent
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Paul T Williams <*
> pwilliams4 at unlnotes.unl.edu* <pwilliams4 at unlnotes.unl.edu>> wrote:
> Hi Kent and all,
>
> I quite discouraged with the set of factory hammers for one of our D's we
> discussed a couple months ago.  I've had to juice them several times all
> over.  I still don't like the tenor and killer octaves all the way up to
> C-7.  They're hung nice and straight, but for fun, I moved the action in and
> out a small amount (like2-4mm) to see if the killer area was going to need
> altering in the strike point.  Not much happened, so they stay where they
> are.
>
> Of course, they haven't had a lot of playing in yet.  I get so-so fff and
> the ppp is pretty good.  I don't like much of anything inbetween except the
> middle 2 octaves and bass.  It's just weak sounding. String mating is good
> and regulation is great, so it's either that these aren't a great set of
> hammers, or the soundboard has some issues (this piano is from the 80's or
> early 90's)  It was a C&A piano, so it's got a different serial number, but
> that's what Richard West says, and since he was here, that's what it is...
>
> I might consider trying some Hamburg hammers sometime, but I'll really have
> to think long and hard about getting another NY set.
>
> What about y'all?
>
> Paul
>
>
>   From: Kent Swafford <*kswafford at gmail.com* <kswafford at gmail.com>>  To: *
> caut at ptg.org* <caut at ptg.org>  Date: 10/13/2010 05:27 PM  Subject: Re:
> [CAUT] How much voicing on new NY hammers
>
>  ------------------------------
>
>
>
> I have found no consistent answer to your question. The last set of D
> hammers I put on needed to be juiced up a bit in the top two sections and
> was then ready to go; the set before that has been juiced twice throughout
> and is not yet bright enough; the one before that was OK in the tenor but
> needed to be juiced everywhere else.
>
> Hanging these is like spinning the wheel of fortune. I'd be interested in
> knowing where yours land.
>
> Kent
>
>
> On Oct 13, 2010, at 4:17 PM, Paul T Williams wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> Quick question;  how much voicing is typically needed on the new NY hammers
> for our D?  I have a very small window to put a set on our D in the main
> hall.  They're pre-hung and I have them here in the shop.  The project
> starts tomorrow.
>
> Thanks
> Paul
>
>
>
>
>
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