seating/False beats

Michael Wathen Michael.Wathen@UC.Edu
Tue, 15 Apr 1997 08:22:10 -0400 (EDT)


I also, think that this is the most plausible possibility.  I kind of
remember trying to get a false beat on my monochord with no success.  My
method was to raise the string off the bridge.

I also, have had several conversations with Harold Conklin about this.  He
felt rather strongly that the technicians practice of tapping the string
down was detrimental to the piano.  I didn't believe him.  But with the
passing of time his voice has haunted my consciousness and I have felt a
little twinge of insecurity every time I do it.

Ron's explanation is well thought out.  Perhaps with a little time on my
hands I will attempt to do something similar on my monochord.

This bridge surface deformation is a serious thing.  We have purchased
instruments from some foreign makers over the last ten years.  Most of them
sound very good at the time of purchase but give it two cycles of seasons or
so and the sound quality tends to deteriorate.  The decline is very
noticeable and has nothing to do with the amount of use.  I have often
suspected that the caps on these bridges were not hard enough.

>On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Ron Nossaman wrote:
>
>> Interested participants,
>>
>> I'd have to go with Bob Davis and Jim Coleman Sr. on this one.
>>
>> Further thoughts: Playing with my third tuning today (K.Kawai grand), I
was dinking around with the false beats I was getting in octave 6. ALL of
the beating strings cleared up with a slight pressure on the side of the
bridge pin opposite the string. Gotta be loose pins. Light seating helped on
SOME of the beaters, not all. Probably floaters, got them down where the
horizontal scrub on the bridge overcame pin flex. While playing with this, I
thought of another possibility as to how strings get up on bridge pins.
>>
>> When a pin is originally driven into the bridge, the part of the hole
that has had the least amount of pin pushed through it is the very bottom.
Since the bottom of the hole experienced the least wear and trauma with pin
insertion, it ought to have the tightest grip on the pin, with the loosest
fit occurring at the top, or entry point. The piano is strung and the
strings are seated on the bridge. With high summer humidity, the bridge
swells. It grows taller, the pin does not! The pin, gripped most firmly at
the bottom, has the top of the bridge literally sliding up it, taking the
string with it. Since the extreme side bearing of the string on the pin puts
the net (side&down) bearing angle at something near horizontal and probably
not far from 20 degrees from PERPENDICULAR (thanks Mike) to the pin, when
the bridge dries and shrinks, the string stays up. Meanwhile, the extreme
sidebearing makes the string very hard to push up the pin and mashes a
GROOVE in the top of the bridge. This movement also saws the bridge pin
against the top of the hole, at a side pressure somewhat less then the
string  sidebearing force (minus spring of pin), with each cycle. No wonder
the holes oval out and the pins get loose at the top! If the strings are
tapped down when they are noisiest ( Winter, pianos get really clear and
sweet when the humidity's high and don't need it ), the bridge top will
again be more deeply grooved with the next high humidity cycle. Even if they
are tapped down as gently as possible, they will damage the bridge on the
next cycle! Epoxying the bridge pins in solidifies the column of wood
immediately around the pin and severely limits it's vertical movement,
relative to the pin, with humidity changes. If this is a good model, the
tapping isn't what does the damage, it just makes it possible for the bridge
to crush itself. I like this explanation. I think it's logical and simple  -
Ocham's Razor -. The simplest explanation is probably the correct one. What
do you think?
>>
>> With some trepidation,     Ron (simple, ask anyone) Nossaman
>>
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