Elastic limits,

Richard Moody remoody@easnetsd.com
Sat, 26 Apr 1997 20:51:49 -0500


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Jim Coleman's Data

> >Here are some examples of tests taken at the CGConn engineering
labs while
> >I was there.
> >
> >wire size    yield point    break point
> >
> >13           258 lbs        290
> >13.5         267            303
> >14           317            355
> >15
> >16           347            398
> >18           431            487
> >
> >
> >There can be as much as 10 to 20 pounds greater tension in the
segment
> >between the tuning pin and agraffe as there is in the speaking
length
> >while pulling pitch up.


	I take it to mean the yield point is the same as elasticity limit.
Where the elasticity limit is that tension where "stretch" or
elongation occurs.  The string gets pulled so much that intead of
returning to its original length, it stays "stretched".  This happens
well below the breaking point.  There are theories that strings
pulled beyond their elasticity limit,"no longer can be expected to
function as music wire".  (the other explanation for false beats)

	So two question, is yield point the same as elasticity limit? and
how is/was yield point measured?

	Here are some historical records of string strength taken from
Dolge.
(wish I had a scanner)

   1867 World's Exhibition, Paris
	Moritz Poehlmann's wire         Nos.  13   14   15   16   17   18
	   broke at a strain of .............Lbs.  226  264 292 296 312 348

1876 World's Exhibition, Philidelphia
	Steinway & Sons' testing machine used.
	Moritz Poehlmann's wire  Nos.   13    14   15   16   17   18
			              Lbs   265  287  320 331 342 386
1893 Chicago World's Fair
	Poehlmann's wire       Nos   12.5   13  14.5  15   16
                  break point	       lbs	    325   335  350  400 415

Jim Colman's tests               Nos    13   13.5 14   15  16    18
	 break point              lbs     290  303 355        398  487

This shows piano makers have had modern strength wire for 100 years.

Richard Moody




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