If the values for elastic limits are the same as the yeild point, Jim's chart shows that you can take the tension to 86- -88 percent of the breaking point before you cause string elongation. If that fits the definition of elasticity limit, as Jim puts it, "the limit a string can be stretched and yet return to its original length." By scale tension calculation it appears that makers are running 80 to 100 + pounds under the elastic limit. ( in unwound strings at least) . This would seem to give a cushion to those of us who like to do things that exceed the pitch tension such as chipping sharp, pulling replacements sharp, using the "string stretcher" p19 Schaff Tool Catalog, False Beat Suppressor, p.21, and other practices such as thumbing a string to slightly flatten it while tuning, or seating strings from the outside of the bridge, and last but not least, string leveling. How much extra tension are we putting on the strings? I assume the use of vectors should give the answers, but I havn't been able to figure out elementry problems such as. A ten pound force is applied to a piano string in the middle. How much is the string's tension increased? The length is 30 inches, the tension is 180 lbs. (750mm, 81.81kg) 10lb = 4.545kg. If the distance the wire is deflected must be known, calculate for every 2 mm, or 1/8 inch. A string is depressed 3/8 inch in the middle. (10 mm) How much tension is the string now under? Length 30 inches, tension 180 lbs. How does the tension change at 2 inches from the bridge, 4 inches, 10 inches. Can these problems be solved by vector addition. If so how? Richard Moody ---------- > From: Jim <pianotoo@IMAP2.ASU.EDU> > To: Richard Moody <remoody@easnetsd.com> > Cc: pianotech@byu.edu > Subject: Re: Elastic limits, > Date: Sunday, April 27, 1997 2:29 AM > > The Parson PScale program computes this elongation in order to > let the designer have full control of the unwrapped lengths which have so > much to do with the final inharmonicity of the Bass strings. > > Jim Coleman, Sr. > > > > > >wire size yield point break point > > > > > > > >13 258 lbs 290 > > > >13.5 267 303 > > > >14 317 355 > > > >15 > > > >16 347 398 > > > >18 431 487 > > > > > > > >
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