Lance. Sure. But make sure that you have a lid for the pan that is as close to air-tight as you can get it, to extinguish the flame once the ex- cess alcohol has been burned away. Hell, if you're going to do it in your bar-b-que pit, you might even want to roast a couple of weenies over the flame! :) Les On Wed, 20 Aug 1997, Lance Lafargue wrote: > Les, > Could I put the shellac in a pie pan, put in a box (to stop the wind) > outside to burn? I picture this like bananas foster (a New Orleans dessert > favorite) or a flambé. I was thinking of putting it down in my big > bar-b-que pit to burn in a pan. I like using traditional methods when > practical. > Lance Lafargue, RPT > New Orleans Chapter > Covington, LA. > lafargue@iamerica.net > > ---------- > > From: Les Smith <lessmith@buffnet.net> > > To: pianotech@ptg.org > > Subject: Re: Burnt Shellac? > > Date: Wednesday, August 20, 1997 11:45 AM > > > > Hi, Sue. > > > > Burnt shellac is usually made in quantity, which means that you have to > > start with at least a half pint of thinned shellac and a full pint is > > probably better. The alcohol won't get enough oxygen to burn off when > > the shellac is still in a regular can. You have to transfer the shellac > > to a wide shallow pan like a cake-pan to burn it off. You also need a > > tight cover for the pan so that you can estinguish the flame afterwards. > > Once the burnt shellac has cooled, it will be the consistency of thick > > molasses. It's best applied--and kept--by putting it in a plastic > > squeeze bottle such as carpenter's glue comes in. Make sure that you > > keep a top on it to keep it from getting too thick. When appling small > > amounts you can squeeze some out on to a flat surface like a metal jar > > lid and then transfer it to where you want it with a small brush. Try- > > ing to make thickened shellac by evaporation, in sufficient quantity, > > just doesn't seem practical. I will repeat, however, that the PVC-E > > glue makes a fine substitute for the more traditional burnt shellac. > > The burning off of the alcohol from thinned shellac is a dangerous > > operation. > > > > BTW, the only "dumb" question, especially on a super-friendly list like > > this, is the one that goes un-asked! > > > > Les Smith > > > > On Wed, 20 Aug 1997, Susan Kline wrote: > > > > > Hi, Les -- > > > > > > Just a question, disregard if dumb. If you wanted to remove the alcohol > > > without the risk of combustion, couldn't you put some shellac in an > open > > > dish and just leave it for awhile, maybe stirring a little, till it was > the > > > right consistency? > > > > > > By the way, if anyone needs to see your post about threaded damper > wires, I > > > still have it and could send it to them. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Susan > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > At 10:35 AM 8/20/97 -0400, Les wrote: > > > >Hi, Lance. > > > > > > > >Burnt shellac is just that, burnt shellac. You take regular, already > > > >mixed shellac, and burn off the excess alcohol. It's a somewhat tricky > > > >proceedure because alcohol burns with an almost clear, hard-to-see > flame. > > > >Since you probably wouldn't want to risk burning down your shop, it's > > > >a job best done outdoors in a clear area, on a windless day. > Fortunately, > > > >there is a modern alternative that works quite well--PVC-E glue. Just > > > >apply a small amount with a small artists brush to where the damper > > > >wire enters the flange, or damperhead and let dry. Carpenter's glue > > > >won't hold a wood to metal bond and will eventually let go; CA glue > > > >will wick so deep that you most likely won't be able to unscrew the > > > >wire from the flange again, without risking breaking something. PVC-E > > > >glue is probably the way to go. > > > > > > > >Les Smith > > > > > > > >On Wed, 20 Aug 1997, Lance Lafargue wrote: > > > > > > > >> Not long ago someone talked about securing damper heads to wires > (those > > > >> that rock back and forth) with burnt shellac. Is that orange-brown > stuff > > > >> that comes in flakes that horn repair people use? Where can I get > that? > > > >> How is it prepared? Is that what Steinway and others used to finish > > > >> soundboards? I was thinking of putting a drop of superglue or > carpenters > > > >> glue on them. What do you think? > > > >> Lance Lafargue, RPT > > > >> New Orleans Chapter > > > >> Covington, LA. > > > >> lafargue@iamerica.net > > > >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Susan Kline > > > P.O. Box 1651 > > > Philomath, OR 97370 > > > skline@proaxis.com > > > > > > "When all other means of communication fail, try words." > > > -- Ashleigh Brilliant > > > > > > > > >
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