I have changed my original subject from: "Key let up - knocky noise" to: "Loose flange on let up? - NOT" Sorry List, A BETTER description of the noise I heard is "a loose flange type of sound" rather than "knock" and my first tendancy was to check the flange screws. It is a wood-to-wood or wood-to-hard glue or wood-to-metal "click" or "tick" or "tap" type of sound. And I am now sorry that I used "knock" in my first posting, because "knock" would describe a deeper tone than what I am hearing. Thanks to Fred T. , Ed F. , Glenn, Ralph M., Anne B. ,Roger J. , Jon P., Vince, Bob A., Eric L. Les S., John E, Howard R. for their many ideas... some ideas I will check out. Other ideas I have ruled out. >>>>> Question # 1, clarified: Encountered 10/7/97, 35% realive humidity, a 1965 Steinway L, teflon bushed. When the key is let go, on the up stroke, there is a loose flange type of a sound. After finding the flanges tight, my second guess was a loose hammer head, but those were also tight. I perceived the noise at a low level throughout the action, which is acceptable or at least bearable, but I perceived the noise at a notable loudness on several notes, randomly, mostly in the midrange of the piano. The noise is present with the action out of the piano, ruling out sharps hitting the fallboard. The noise is present with the key isolated ( key held down immobile- while letting hammer drop down to rep lever), ruling out key bushings, key leads, and key to stop rail. The random, non-consecutive appearance of the noise would rule out glides or loose rails. I thought, maybe the shank was hitting "tapping" the top of rep lever height adjustment screw , but when I held a piece of bushing cloth inbetween - still no improvement. The "shank cushion?" is plenty soft. I squeezed the knuckle with my pliars to test hardness, and concluded that it was about the same hardness as the adjacent non-clicky knuckle... next time, maybe I'll switch hammer assemblies to see if noise switches also. I don't remember testing the tightness of the knuckle core in the shank ... I should have. Could a loose telflon bushing cause a loud "woody tappy" noise like that? If so, how would I test each bushing to know which needed repair? I will check the regulation buttons at the next tuning. The noise occurs without the jack moving away from it's rest position, ruling out the jack hitting the opposite side of the window. I will check out many of the suggested colliding parts that you have all mentioned. Thanks, Mike Erickson, Tucson ----------------------------
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