At 02:46 PM 1/15/98 EST, Jim wrote: ><<Have a great day worry warts > >Ralph Martin>> > >What, me worry? :-) >Jim Bryant (FL) > Tim Keenan wrote: >it is clearly disingenuous to compare the toxicity of >organic solvents to that of common foodstuffs. Dear Jim <g> I think you have challenged an organic chemist to a duel on his home turf. As for me, I'm not for worrying, either. I'm for getting it right enough of the time, easily enough, that I don't have to worry. You'd think from what I've written about methanol that I'm opposed to people taking risks. Not a bit! If they enjoy hang gliding, rock climbing, making nature specials in spectacularly dangerous and uncomfortable (if beautiful) places, I'll cheer them on every step of the way. I'm not built that way myself, but I consider they enhance life for all of us. What I despise is for people to get hurt through risks taken for trivial reasons, or just through habit or ignorance. Methanol in the gas tank? Fine, especially if you know that you should keep it off your hands, and pour it into the gas tank outside, rather than in the garage. Methanol in action centers, or mixed with shellac and painted on indoors? WHY? Denatured alcohol solvent will do it fine. Inspired by these posts, I just went and renewed my supply of grain alcohol, at my friendly local liquor store (town of 3500.) 750 ml of Everclear, 190 proof (95% ethanol, free of contaminants), for $14.35. The last bottle lasted me three years, even though I used it several times for herbal tinctures as well as treating action centers, and once I removed a little shellac with it. That's $4.91 a year, for those who don't want to reach for their calculators, with no effort at all to find the best price. For that level of cost, it's not worth the time and effort to shop for a bargain. But, you say, I only use a bit of it, and you use heaps? Doesn't change the argument. If you use a tad, there's no reason to buy methanol, since the cost of ethanol will be trivial. If you use enough to fill a swimming pool, it is even more important not to use methanol, because that amount could _really_ get you sick. At that point, time to be sure you have a _really_ good ventilation system, and look for bargains, buying denatured alcohol solvent in bulk. There is one very good reason I can see for choosing denatured alcohol over Everclear: if you have a drinking problem, and want to keep potables out of the house. Now, _there's_ common sense! If you've fought and beaten this inborn metabolic craving, you have my sympathy and respect. Now that I have ventilated, as well, time for my celebration: Exactly one year ago today I subscribed to pianotech for the first time. What a year!!!!! Thanks, all of you, thanks for being there, and for being yourselves. Just to put the cherry on top of the sundae, Newton gets home today. While at the liquor store I acquired a bottle of triple sec to observe the occasion. Beats your old wood alky all hollow! Best regards, as always, Susan P.S. Celebrating the anniversary with a double signature line. Susan Kline P.O. Box 1651 Philomath, OR 97370 skline@proaxis.com "If I were determined to commit suicide, I would first try to do it with chocolate." -- Ashleigh Brilliant "If life really is just an illusion, please convey my compliments to the illusionist." -- Ashleigh Brilliant
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