Seiler info

[Peter KESTENS]

Jim,

I've to tell you, the Seilers I've seen weren't good piano's at all; to
generalize for all the Seilers is very dangerous, but ,...I also have to
tell you that this was a few years ago, so things could have changed a lot.
Peter
't MUZIEKINSTRUMENTENATELIER
PETER KESTENS
BELGIUM
KESTENS.P@DEBCOM.BE
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Van: Jim.Shari@ruralnet1.com <Jim.Shari@ruralnet1.com>
Aan: pianotech@ptg.org <pianotech@ptg.org>
Datum: maandag 26 januari 1998 3:48
Onderwerp: Re: Seiler info


>Hi Peter,
>
>I realize that what we are discussing here is largely personal opinion.
>My view is that Bosendorfer pianos are extremely well made with a nice
>touch and fast repetition, but to my ear, the Bosendorfer has a rather
>thin tone as compared to other brands.   Some types of music calls for
>this.  I think that Seiler produces pianos that are as well made as
>Bosendorfer.   The down-touch on the grands that I have seen is
>consistantly between 48-50 grams, with very quick repetition.   They
>seem to be an extremely stable piano and hold their regulation very
>well.  The tone of the Seiler grands I've tuned is clean in the treble
>without all the harsh metallic noise associated with the duplex scaling
>of Steinway (american), Yamaha and others.  The transition of clear
>mellow tone in the tenor to the bigger bass with more bite is very
>smooth.   Then to top it off, the finish work on Seiler pianos is
>extremely well done.
>
>I don't expect all of us to like the same things, but I believe that the
>Seiler piano is a very good choice for most situations.
>
>Best Regards,
>
>Jim Krentzel
>jim_shari@ruralnet1.com
>
>PI>Jim,
>
>PI>If I understand you very well, you place Seiler grands in the same
category
>PI>as Bösendorfer.  I hardly can believe that.  Those Seilers should have
>PI>amaliorated very, very much but as far as I know them, they are very far
>PI>away from the (sound- and play)quality of a Bösendorfer grand.  Here in
>PI>Belgium (and I thinbk in a great part of Europe) BÖsendorfer equals
Steinway
>PI>(it depends most of the time which sound you prefer), then you have
>PI>Bechstein,  Ibach, and then some other brands like Pleyel, Schimmel,
yamaha,
>PI>Kawai, ...Seiler is placed still (far) behind those names.
>PI>What are your criteria's for those instruments?
>PI>Greetings,
>PI>Peter
>
>PI>'t MUZIEKINSTRUMENTENATELIER
>PI>PETER KESTENS
>PI>BELGIUM
>PI>KESTENS.P@DEBCOM.BE
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>PI>Van: Jim.Shari@ruralnet1.com <Jim.Shari@ruralnet1.com>
>PI>Aan: pianotech@ptg.org <pianotech@ptg.org>
>PI>Datum: zaterdag 24 januari 1998 1:59
>PI>Onderwerp: Seiler info
>
>
>PI>>Hi Avery,
>PI>>I've been tuning Seilers for about 10 years.  I feel they are in the
>PI>>Bosendorfer class but with a little gutsier sound.  They are beautiful
>PI>>also.  They go all out on veneer selection etc...  They use a
>PI>>multi-laminated pin block, so the tuning is a little stiff.  They do
not
>PI>>use a duplex system.    The treble is clean and clear and not too
>PI>>bright.  The bass is really gutsy.  I think the soundboard is made of
>PI>>quarter-sawn white pine.  All the pianos I have cared for seem to stand
>PI>>up very well; however, none of them are owned by anyone who plays 4 hrs
>PI>>a day.   If you need some literature, I can give you the name of a
local
>PI>>dealer.
>PI>>Jim Krentzel
>PI>>
>PI>>PI>List,
>PI>>
>PI>>PI>   I need some information about Seiler grands. I just got off the
phone
>PI>>PI>with a lady who's been looking for a piano for her 16 yr. old son
and so
>PI>>PI>far, in their price range, he has liked the Seiler more than
anything
>PI>>PI>else he's played.
>PI>>PI>   I can't remember even tuning one, so I know absolutely nothing
about
>PI>>PI>them. Can anyone help me out here so I can maybe help the customer?
I
>PI>would
>PI>>PI>particularly like to know about how they stand up to fairly heavy
use.
>PI>She
>PI>>PI>said her son practices 3-4 hrs. a day.
>PI>>PI>   Thanks.
>PI>>
>PI>>PI>Avery
>PI>>
>PI>>PI>___________________________
>PI>>PI>Avery Todd, RPT
>PI>>PI>Moores School of Music
>PI>>PI>University of Houston
>PI>>PI>Houston, TX 77204-4893
>PI>>PI>713-743-3226
>PI>>PI>atodd@uh.edu
>PI>>PI>http://www.uh.edu/music/
>PI>>
>PI>>
>PI>>
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