Fwd: Re:Vertical Dampers and touch

Roger Jolly baldyam@sk.sympatico.ca
Fri, 29 Jan 1999 11:18:18 -0600


>To: pianotech@ptg.org
>From: Roger Jolly <baldyam@sk.sympatico.ca>
>Subject: Re:Vertical Dampers and touch
>
>Greetings to All,
>                          With your indulgence, I would like to ramble
with some thoughts on dampers and heavy playing verticals.
>Assuming a touch weight analysis has been done, with results, DW 54gr
range, UW 21gm range. The customer is complaining of heavy or spongy feel.
>
>Several things that I like to check in order.
>
>1. Hammer blow distance. 1 3/4" for most consols. if the hammers have been
reshaped and the blow distance not corrected, more dip is required to get
the proper after touch, the increase in key movement will increase the
damper travel.
>
>2. Damper rod, for even lift.  Adjust the hangers to get an even lift bass
to treble, the bushing above the trap work rod is the first to give
trouble.  Rebush as required.
>
>3. Bend any slow lifting damper wires. after this, all dampers should lift
off the strings evenly.
>
>4. Check damper follow, and spoon timing. Often these can be interactive.
If the damper is lifting immediately, there will be no follow. Set the
spoons  so that the dampers just start to move after the hammer has
travelled 1"-1 1/8". Follow is essential for good damping, about 1/8" is
about right for most consols.  Too much can give a heavy feel. Too little
can lead to bleeding dampers.
>
>5. Depth of touch, front rail punchings, and the butt spring rail
location. Many of the cheaper consols use very soft and spongy FR
punchings, this can give a spongy feel  ( heaviness ) to a good player, A
trick that I use to firm these up, is to iron them with a clothes iron.
Once I have nice clean after touch, I check to make sure there is adaquate
clearance from the damper wire and the butt spring rail, when depressing
the key firmly to the bottom, the wire should NOT touch the felt on the rail.
>
>In the majority of cases this check list solves the problem.
>
>Regards Roger
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>At 11:30 PM 24/01/99 -0600, you wrote:
>>Hi Sandman,
>>                     At 69gms down weight with dampers off, it is best to
>>solve this problem before. messing with damper springs. I have seen too
>>many pianos messed up by some one stabing
>>in the dark.  In this case a touch weight analysis has been done, and
>>points to either friction or geometry. IMHO.
>>Regards Roger
>>
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> 
Roger Jolly
Baldwin Yamaha Piano Centre
Saskatoon and Regina
Saskatchewan, Canada.
306-665-0213
Fax 652-0505



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