grey market, grey matter

Don drose@dlcwest.com
Fri, 07 May 1999 13:50:19 -0600


Hi Jay,

I would recommend you sell them a full damppchaser system at just above
your cost price. The grade A grey market pianos I have seen tend to start
growing *green* corrosion very quickly. :(

At 12:02 PM 5/7/99 PDT, you wrote:
>List,
>
>If you're not in the mood for a semi-long story, then I'd hit your back 
>button right now.  : )
>
>Two things I want to talk about here:
>
>1.  The 1990 Kawai CA-40 serial #1988945 does indeed have the document 
>holder located on the inner rim.  Jim B. says that indicates a grey market 
>piano.  So, I've accepted the fact that I ordered a grey market piano for a 
>well-known elderly woman who donated it to our local retirement village.  I 
>am neutral in the grey market matter, because I don't have enough experience 
>with them to form an opinion.  Right now, there are three pedals, a flawless 
>finish and the entire action seems in perfect regulation.  All parts look 
>fine.  I played it for a half hour and am very happy with the response, 
>tone, clarity etc...
>So I'll have to wait for 5 years for the real verdict.
>
>2.  Again, I was asked by an elderly woman to find a "good" grand piano. She 
>didn't want the best (which to her meant $20,000 on up) but simply wanted 
>something that would stand out above the rest (in this town that's not 
>difficult - Glenwood is population 2500.) To me that meant to find a used 
>grand piano, preferably Kawai or Yamaha, since it seems these are easy to 
>find and there aren't any grands in this town other than YC.  I consider 
>both brands very good pianos and found several prospects in the $10,000 - 
>$14,000 range.
>
>Since I am fairly new to the area, about 3 years, I am always trying to make 
>new contacts with local musicians, clients, and of course, dealers.  There 
>is a town 15 miles from Glenwood with a population of 10,000 in the city, 
>3,000 in the country.  There are two piano dealers that both sell YC 
>products, Samick and Story and Clark.  I decided to approach the smaller 
>dealer since he was a good friend of one of my closest friends - I know, 
>yakatee yakatee yak.  : )
>
>This dealer sells 42" Story & Clarks and Weber Grands.  Not much inventory, 
>pretty small time.  But hey, he is a nice guy so what the heck........
>
>He tells me that for any pianos outside of his product line, he goes through 
>a dealer in Chicago.  I called and told him what I was looking for but did 
>not reveal the price range.  He later called back with a fax list of about 
>300 grands.  He asked about the price range at that time and I said to keep 
>it under $12,000.  He then proceeded with the possibilities.  We finally 
>narrowed it down to four different pianos - a 1990 Kawai, a 1998 Kawai "for 
>just a little bit more money," and 2 Yamaha grands for around $13,000.
>
>I asked for information on the serial number, year, condition, finish and 
>length.  I typed up the list of four pianos (nicely typed too) and presented 
>it to the buyer.  She didn't want to choose but wanted my assurance on the 
>'90 Kawai.  I told her about the grading system and that a 1990 Grade A 
>Kawai 6' Grand would be a great piano for the retirement home chapel.  So it 
>was decided.
>
>I called the dealer and told him to go ahead with the '90 Kawai.  He said he 
>needed $5,000 down and the remaining balance of $6,200 after the piano 
>arrives.  No problem.
>
>The next day he calls me and says "Jay, I ordered it!  Exciting huh!"  Then 
>he asks for the $5,000.  I called the client relaying the money thing.   She 
>paid the down money 3 days later.
>
>The piano arrives from California 3 weeks later.  I was nervous because this 
>was my first time with this type of deal.  By the way, it was understood 
>with the dealer, client and myself what take we would get for the service.  
>$500 to the dealer plus a huge article in our local newspaper about the 
>piano and what dealer it came from, $150 to me for my time, $250 to the 
>movers from California, and $200 to the local movers.  Those are the going 
>rates around these parts at least for movers and techs.  I was also nervous 
>because I didn't know if this piano would be regulated.  If it was out of 
>regulation, that would have been my time donated.
>
>The piano arrived better than I had hoped for.  See #1 above.  Piano looks 
>and plays great.  The client pays the balance for a total of $11,200 and 
>everything is peachy.
>
>HOWEVER!  .......  When they were unloading off the van I noticed the serial 
>number was different from the one the dealer told me on the phone.  After a 
>couple of days I started thinking how could this be.  The thought of 
>deception really started to depress me.
>
>So yesterday I recieve my $150 check from the dealer.  He asks if the 
>clients were happy with the piano and I said yes.  After he wrote the check 
>I mentioned that I too was happy with the whole deal - except for one thing. 
>  "The only thing that bugs me about this deal is that the serial number is 
>different from the one you told me on the phone."
>
>His face turned bright red and he quickly stated "Oh, I must have given you 
>the wrong number. You know those fax sheets have such small print."  He then 
>told me he needs new glasses.  I didn't say anything at all.  It was 
>complete silence.  I couldn't stand it anymore so I turned the subject into 
>the grey piano market.  The atmosphere lightened up as he listened to what I 
>regurgitated from this list.  He looked puzzled like he had never heard of 
>the grey market.
>
>The original serial number he gave me was 1988966.  The piano that arrived 
>was 1988945.  Both pianos are listed as 1990 Kawais in the Atlas.
>
>So.....any comments???
>
>If it weren't for the fact that I am very happy with the piano, the clients 
>are happy with the piano, and I don't want to stir up any commotion in this 
>small town, I think this dealer would be in hot water.  I let it go.  But he 
>and I both know from it won't happen again.
>
>Jay Mercier
>Piano Tech. / Teacher
>Glenwood, MN
>
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Regards,
Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.M.T., R.P.T.

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