Tilting on the lyre

[David ilvedson]

Well I like the Steve Pearson's idea of the dummy lyre and 
also intend to make one.  I'm thinking the top block should be 
bigger than a typical lyre to distribute the load.  I wonder if 
pipe for legs might be strong enough and why not a curved 
bottom box?  Seems to me we discussed this very thing 
sometime ago?.....

David i.


From:           	"Richard Moody" <remoody@easnet.net>
To:             	<pianotech@ptg.org>
Subject:        	Re: Tilting on the lyre
Date sent:      	Sat, 29 May 1999 01:03:47 -0500
Send reply to:  	pianotech@ptg.org

> Once upon a time I worked in a player piano store, and we had reproducers
> moved in and out. I thought the problem was that the parts of the player
> underneath would get damaged if the piano were let down after taking off
> the lyre.  That if the piano were tipped over using the lyre, it would arc
> over just right.  Anyhow there were special considerations for the movers
> with our reproducer grands but we paid them for it.  Besides some of those
> with six legs were very flemsy when any attempt was made to tip them over.
> For the grands with only big dowels and screws for the legs and not lock
> plates you are asking for trouble not  using the lyre.  All in all it is
> much easier on the men, equipment and instrument if it is tilted on the
> lyre. 
> 	It is just one more practice which must be done with care and thought.
> The lyre must be inspected for strength which is actually easier to
> ascertain than the legs. If there is any question about the conditions of
> the legs or lyres it is best to have three experienced movers to tip. 
> 	For grand pianos up to 5' 6" those get moved by myself, tilted over on
> the lyre (after it has been inspected) on to the sled.  On my two rental
> grands the lyres were secured in with machine bolts into T nuts embed in
> the key bed.  One more use for the lyre in moving.  A folded up pad placed
> under it will lift the  left leg off the floor so no one needs to hold
> that side up while the other fellow is underneath trying to take the leg
> off.  This is one more indication that the lyre is strong enough to tilt
> with. 
> 
> Ric.
> 
> 
> ----------
> From: Berley A. Firmin <FIRMAN1@prodigy.net>
> To: pianotech@ptg.org
> Subject: Re: Tilting on the lyre
> Date: Friday, May 28, 1999 2:06 PM
> 
> I am extremely cautious about moving grands and would never allow a mover
> to use the lyre....I restore Reproducers and would die if a lyre broke or
> gave way and the piano fell on the player unit beneath! My nightmares are
> made of these!
> Mr. Berley Antoine Firmin II
> Bayou La Combe, Louisiana
> 
> 


David Ilvedson, RPT
Pacifica, CA
ilvey@jps.net