Here's why I think that they didn't get such a good deal. Here in Austin I just inspected a c.1985 "gray-market" Yamaha 7'4" C-7. I needed only keybushings, and a good regulation, but that was it. The dealer was willing to sell it "as-is" no-warranty wholesale for $12,500. This piano was gorgeous, played wonderfully, had a flawless soundboard, was 30 years newer than the c.1955 9 ft bucket of bolt described earlier. Yeah, it's not 9 foot long. But it played the pants off of anything less than 9 feet and it cost nearly $5,000.00 less before the additional $6,000 in work. How much warranty did the church get? None. $17k for a nice modern 9 foot grand is NOT a rip-off. This piano however, needed a minimum of $6k more in repairs/rebuilding. At $23,000 for a 1955 concert grand (we know that this didn't include a soundboard, pinblock, refinish etc), they could have done better with a much newer "gray-market" Yamaha, even if it were only a C-7. Now, my original point was...I'm still looking for evidence of problems with the nearly new Yamaha "gray-market" pianos. Wimblees said that this "gray market" piano was problematic, and that they paid too much for it. Although I just pointed out that I too think that they paid too much, my contention is that nearly any concert grand from 1955 with heavy use will need $6,000 or more in work in 1999. Does this make all gray-market Yamaha's bad? I don't believe so. -----Original Message----- From: ETomlinCF3@AOL.COM <ETomlinCF3@AOL.COM> To: pianotech@ptg.org <pianotech@ptg.org> Date: Saturday, September 18, 1999 1:41 PM Subject: Re: Gray Market Yamahas >Why do we assume that they were ripped off? $17000 for the Concert grand >plus $6000 of a good techs work makes a good concert grand for less than >$25000, in my book that is reasonable. > >Ed Tomlinson > ><< Ok, your point is what? It's a 1955 piano. How many 9 foot grands don't > need $6,000 or more of work after 44years of use. Yeah, for $17k they were > ripped off. But why does this disparage "gray-market" pianos? The dealer > is at fault here! Japan is simply one source of used pianos. This church > could have been just as easily ripped off with a worn out USA market Yamaha. > >> >
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