----- Original Message ----- From: <JIMRPT@AOL.COM> To: <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 1999 1:55 PM Subject: Re: agraffes on bridge? > > In a message dated 9/22/1999 11:27:37 PM, musicmasters@worldnet.att.net > writes: > > << However, if the bridge agraffs have > upbearing, how does this comport with the treble section, which has > traditional bridge pinning? Isn't it really strange to combine upbearing > and downbearing > on a bridge? >> > > <<"Doesn't the upper "traditional" treble have downbearing?">> > > Brian H.; > Del or Ron N. would be more qualified to answer this question than I > but...... > Yes in most cases of agraffed Sohmers the upper treble has 'normal' > downbearing, probably supported to some extent by the 'upbearing' on the rest > of the scale as well as crown built into the treble section of the board ?? > The bass section of these thingees also has "normal" bridges. ------------------------------------------- I've not studied the characteristics of piano soundboards using up bearing. I am aware that several have been made, but they are now quite old and probably beyond their musical best. I have given some thought to "agraffe bridges," however. There are no inherent technical reasons why some system of this type would not work as well as, or better than, the bridge pin system currently in common use. The bridge system must do two things: 1) It must efficiently terminate the speaking length of the string. 2) It must efficiently transfer the vibrating energy from the string to the soundboard. Any mechanism that accomplishes these two tasks can be used. There are some issues that must be considered with any string termination system. Among them are: 1) Cost. The conventional bridge pin system has been used so long that most high production companies now have automated systems for drilling, notching, pin insertion, etc. The actual cost in these pianos is quite low. For pianos like the Steinway, tradition is probably motivation enough to continue using the bridge pin system. It does take a bit of training to prepare a human to do this task. Once trained, however, the cost of doing the job by hand is still not all that high. 2) Downbearing. The system must provide for string loading of the soundboard. This can be accomplished by any string termination system. The soundboard does not care how it gets loaded, just that it is. 3) Service. The system must be trouble free and long-lived. Here the bridge pin system does not fare so well. It is very problematic. But some other systems don't do much better. The agraffe systems have a problem with bridge roll. Unless they alternate the string deflection, in which case they tend to split bridges. 4) Stringing. The system must provide for easy stringing. Both at the factory and in the field. It is not likely that any new system will be any easier to string than the good old bridge pin system. Agraffes have a problem with the center string through the trichord section. The sides can be slotted for easy insertion of the two outside strings, but this doesn't work for the center string. Stringing is generally more difficult with all of the different systems I have seen. 5) Acceptance. The technical community is slow to accept any new innovation in the piano. Even ideas like the vertical hitch pin still face an undercurrent of opposition even though it is clearly a superior system. There are probably some other important considerations I've not thought of here. From time to time I work on this little problem. I have come up with -- and discarded -- probably a half-dozen designs that would work better than the current bridge pin system. But they all have failed one or more of the above tests. Del
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