Stripper

[Jon Page]

Greg,
I'm sure your product works like lightening but I have known Arthur for 
many years
and his main concern is for safety; volatile chemical exposure, that is.

Arthur is well aware of the products on the market and may have opted not to
test your brand for the amount of one or more of these ingredients: methylene
chloride, toluene, methanol.

A slower acting product is a fair trade for one which is more hazardous.

If you re-read his post, another concern was viscosity. Dyna 2 being a 
thick paste
will cling to the side of the case, whereas Klean Kutter will just run down 
dripping
all over the place requiring multiple applications. This can be problematic 
when
stripping the interior of the case to keep the sound board from being 
affected. I
wouldn't like to create a mess like this and would prefer to have a 
controlled substance.
A controllable substance, I mean  :-)  Actually, I don't like chemical 
strippers at all and scrape.

Toxicity is Arthur's foremost concern, product performance being a close 
second.

Besides, what's wrong with leaving the stripper on for an hour? It'll 
probably take
a while to cover the case, legs, music rack, etc; so by the time you get 
them all
covered it's time to start at the beginning to scrape down and wash. While one
side of the lid is being dissolved, you can be sanding a leg.  There's always
something to do, even if it's just sitting back and watching it work.

Safety First,

Jon Page


At 02:13 AM 12/31/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>O.K. folks for those of you who got the wrong idea from the subject
>line, your in the wrong forum. :~) Now, I must respond to the latest
>post from Arthur Grudko from Starhawk Labs. I'm not sure what exactly he
>is testing or how but I have what I think is much better than what the
>ones he is testing here. I must however admit that there is some vapor
>to contend with though not too bad.
>     I was somewhat skeptical when I read Mr. Grudko's post mainly
>because of the cost of a "good" stripper compound so I tried my own
>little test. I have for refinishing in my shop a customers 20's vintage
>A.B. Chase grand with an old varnish seemingly not too dissimilar to
>what Mr. Grudko describes. I just went to grab the music desk glide
>track and some of "my choice" chemical  and stripped it to bare wood in
>5 , count them 5, minutes! Now I'm sure my testing wasn't nearly as
>scientific as the lauded Mr. Grudko but ..... 5 MINUTES!
>     Please do not misunderstand the nature of this post. I in no way
>intend to "dis" Mr. Grudko in any way. I mentioned the name of the
>product I found at Home Depot several weeks ago and I believe it must
>have went ignored. For those of you who may be interested the brand is
>Klean Strip and the product is called Klean Kutter Remover. It claims to
>work (and seems to) on varnish, lacquer and shellac on all types of
>wood. What I've seen it do is to literally dissolve the old finish in a
>very short time and leave a very clean surface. I've just used an old
>paint brush to continually apply the water like consistency chemical and
>let the chemical drip back into a basin and before long the finish is
>dripping off of the wood dissolved in the stripper.
>     I'm no rocket scientist as the saying goes, but I would rather spend
>a shorter amount of time at a much lower price than the alternative
>suggested by Mr. Grudko. The last project I did I stripped the entire
>lid of an average sized grand in about 20 minutes. Cool Stuff!!!
>
>Greg Newell
>
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