Hi Terry, No flames from here. You bring up interesting and thought provoking questions. I probably said more than I need to on the subject, but one last thought came to mind that I have to pass on, and then I'm going to shut up on the subject. I read a couple of phrases that lead one to believe that using an ETD can be harmful to the well-being of the technician using it. Well, I've got some bad news. The car you drive? It can be harmful to you if you crash it into a telephone pole, or another car. The house you live in? It can be harmful to you if it falls on you during an earthquake. The food you eat? It can be harmful to you if it was soaked with pesticides. The power tools you use in your shop? They can be very harmful to you, perhaps just as lethal as any other thing. All of those things are things that most of us use on a very frequent basis. All of those things can be very harmful, even lethal, depending upon a number of variables. It's our job, when we use the above, to control, to the best of our ability, those variables to make the use of them as safe as we can. How is that different from an ETD? Well, first of all, an ETD won't likely kill you if you mis-use it. It won't likely kill your ability to tune aurally either. What it may do, if being used to the exclusion of aural skills is to cause one to never receive any aural exercise in tuning. Not really much different than if you stopped driving you would loose a lot of your skill. That's not to say that if you start driving again, (tuning aurally), you wouldn't be able to regain those skills or even surpass your previous skills. I keep saying it... it isn't about the tool, it's about the guy (oops, or gal) using it. Sort of as an aside, I was talking to another person, a secretary for another tuner in the area, who insisted that there was no way to get a piano to hold it's tune when using an ETD. I was appalled at the ignorance. It's like the machine was the one actually turning the tuning lever and (not) setting the pins (in their opinion, not mine.) There's so much mis-information out there about just what an ETD can and cannot do, and unfortunately, enough tuners out there who don't really know how to tune (aurally or by ETD)... it's kind of sad. I think I said enough now. I think I need to crawl back underneath my rock. Have a good one. Brian Trout Quarryville, PA btrout@desupernet.net
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