Ron and Phil, Phil wrote: <<I tune with plugs religiously - and I can honestly say that I do not notice the difference that you speak of...if anything, I tend to over-stretch that last octave, and my tests in the 6th octave prove that I am 'in the window'.>> I also tune with plugs every time. I think I can hear better with plugs than without because ear fatigue is reduced. After tuning the entire piano. I go back and verify each unison without plugs. I have observed that much stretch difference in the way I tune aurally and the average FAC tuning. I *tend* to stretch more, but with testing, I rein it in. John Formsma Blue Mountain, MS
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