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[Bdshull@AOL.COM]

In a message dated 00-03-19 01:19:48 EST, you write:
 
 <<check the block to flange fit. Wedges may need to be inserted to
 fill a gap.>> (Jim quoth)
 
 <So many people have made this, or similar, comments in this thread that I 
 have found it needful to comment/ask a question(s) in spite of having 
 promised myself in the past that I would not do so......>

But here you go, Jim....It is late, you can be excused for clicking on "send."

Me too, hopefully.  As I noted, I have never had any luck with wedges, and I 
believe Yamaha says that this fit is not important anyway.  But I remember 
back 20, 25 years ago this was a hot thing, and the folks from the Yamaha 
service department were even distributing wooden wedges.  However, later they 
began downplaying this.  The Steinway or Mason and Hamlin pinblock to flange 
fit needs to be pretty good (whatever your standard is for this, it needs to 
have frequent, solid flange contact).  The Yamaha uses plate bushings, and is 
fitted to the webbing.  The pinblock is being pulled AWAY from the plate 
flange, for the most part, via tunig pins pivoting at the plate bushings.  So 
I think, at 12:30 PST Saturday night.

Bill Shull
 
< Does anyone have any "objective" evidence that there is significant 
(meaning 
 tuning altering) pinblock movement after intial tensioning of the 
 strings....since the talk is of "wedging" between plate flange and pinblock 
 it is movement in this direction that I am adressing....any 'objective' 
 evidence anyone??
  What is the purpose of "wedging" a pinblock that is itself floating?, i.e. 
 not mortised, glued, doweled...............
  What is the purpose of "wedging" a pinblock that is mortised to the 
 stretcher, doweled to the sides and the top back plate flange is screwed to 
 the stretcher ??
 If there were pin block movement in this case would there not be separation 
 of the mortise joint at stretcher-pinblock joint?
  Where did this measurement of a "business card" come from? Who set this 
 standard? if less than a "business card" gap is there is that acceptable?  
If 
 so is a gap of half a business card going to cause problems with tuning 
 stability? If not, why not?........... there still is not a solid flange fit 
 is there?>
 
  <Again is there any 'objective' evidence in this regard?
 Jim Bryant (FL)>
  >>