Yup. Where do I find them? Owen Jorgensen's book? Is there a smaller, friendlier source? Terry Farrell Piano Tuning & Service Tampa, Florida mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent Swafford" <kswafford@earthlink.net> To: <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 5:26 PM Subject: Re: EBVT compared with FAC Prg for same` > on 10/30/00 8:59 AM, Farrell at mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com wrote: > > > You make a very good point regarding the need to go beyond plugging in FAC > > numbers, using offsets and expecting a great Valotti (or whatenver HT) > > tuning on the piano. Such use of the SAT (or any other VTD) is nothing more > > than a machine tuning (even if only used for ET) that might be OK (perhaps > > on a well-scaled piano) or more likely be off ranging from a bit to LOTS! > > > > I have only tuned a few pianos with the Valotti, Young and Meantone HTs. In > > the absense of any suitable aural checks for these tunings - and lack of > > knowlegde of how to tune them aurally - what I did was to work out an ET > > tuning (with appropriate aural checks) that I was happy with (essentially an > > aurally modified FAC tuning - as are all my tunings) and record this in the > > SAT (there are a variety of methods to save the tuning). After I am happy > > with the ET, I enter the HT offsets to that tuning and proceed to "machine" > > tune the piano with the SAT. Actually, most of the pianos I have tried HTs > > on are pianos that I had tuned previously and have an established ET tuning > > for them. > > > > I'm no expert (just getting into the adequate range) ET tuner. Only > > experimenting with HTs. Is mine a logical approach that is likely to yield > > good results? > > > > Terry Farrell > > The answer to your question, I think, is yes; making careful offsets from a > ET tuning that has already been established for a particular piano is likely > to yield good results. This is surely a great way to get your feet wet. > > But -- by using offsets you are still dependent upon someone else's efforts; > someone else derived those offsets. Look around and you will see different > offsets purporting to be the same HT. This should raise red flags, IMO. > > We wouldn't (I hope) go out and tune ET without some aural beat rate checks > to prove our work. Why should it be any different for HT's? The complete > tuner will have studied the instructions for tuning the HT's aurally and (at > least) run through them to prove his work on electronically-tuned HT's. No? > > Kent > >
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