Hi Dave, If both pianos have the same problem in the same area of the scale, you might look elsewhere. Would there be a ceiling fan running? Jim Krentzel At 10:14 AM 11/10/00 -0800, you wrote: >I ran into a problem that I don't remember hearing. It's got me stumped. I'll include some details in hope I can get a good answer. > >I tuned two Yamahas for a customer in her teaching studio. One piano was a Model U-11 Ser # T 121496 and the other a G3 Ser # 1098046. The grand had two pedals and a data plate on the inside of the case so I am assuming it was mfg. in Japan. I did not attempt to tune them together as I know the scale is different and the client wasn't interested. Both pianos had the same problem. > >Neither piano had been tuned in two years and the client tried to convince me that it was a "new thing" that piano manufacturers had "just" started recommending a piano be tuned every six months. Amazingly the lady was blessed/cursed with an uncanny ear that could pick out every false beat and nuance. She called my attention to the low bass in each piano. Neither piano sounded right. > >I did all the checks and all beats were correct. The octaves just didn't sound right on the on the first 6 or 7 notes. I figured I would just tune them as clean octaves, but I could not get the lower notes in line. The partials were beating so fast either way, the notes sounded horrid with the rest of the piano. > >Is there a possibility the scaling is off? Tapping down the strings doesn't help, twisting either. There is a bit of rust on the grand, but the other is clean. I'm kind of at my wits end. Am I missing anything? > >Mark Wisner, you told me you read all the Yamaha stuff on Pianotech, would you care to comment? > >Thanks, > >Dave Streit >Portland, OR ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> ><HTML><HEAD> ><META content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" http-equiv=Content-Type> ><META content="MSHTML 5.00.2314.1000" name=GENERATOR> ><STYLE></STYLE> ></HEAD> ><BODY bgColor=#ffffff> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I ran into a problem that I don't remember >hearing. It's got me stumped. I'll include some details in hope I can get >a good answer.</FONT></DIV> ><DIV> </DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT face=Arial size=2>I tuned two Yamahas for a >customer in her teaching studio. </FONT>One piano was a Model U-11 Ser # T >121496 and the other a G3 Ser # 1098046. The grand had two pedals and a >data plate on the inside of the case so I am assuming it was mfg. in >Japan. I did not attempt to tune them together as I know the scale is >different and the client wasn't interested. Both pianos had the same >problem. </FONT></DIV> ><DIV> </DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Neither piano had been tuned in two years and the >client tried to convince me that it was a "new thing" that piano manufacturers >had "just" started recommending a piano be tuned every six months. >Amazingly the lady was blessed/cursed with an uncanny ear that could pick out >every false beat and nuance. She called my attention to the low bass in >each piano. Neither piano sounded right.</FONT></DIV> ><DIV> </DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I did all the checks and all beats were correct. >The octaves just didn't sound right on the on the first 6 or 7 notes. I >figured I would just tune them as clean octaves, but I could not get the lower >notes in line. The partials were beating so fast either way, the notes sounded >horrid with the rest of the piano.</FONT></DIV> ><DIV> </DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Is there a possibility the scaling is off? >Tapping down the strings doesn't help, twisting either. There is a bit of >rust on the grand, but the other is clean. I'm kind of at my wits >end. Am I missing anything? </FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mark Wisner, you told me you read all the Yamaha >stuff on Pianotech, would you care to comment?</FONT></DIV> ><DIV> </DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks, </FONT></DIV> ><DIV> </DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dave Streit</FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Portland, OR</FONT> </DIV></BODY></HTML> >
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