Hi Arthur - The PSL does not need or even have a crosslinker that can be added. The Hybrid varnish has the cross linker as an option when added durability is a factor. It is certainly usable without it. Regarding using clear over black, it is not necessary, of course, but I like the way it looks, and besides, how do you seal in a decal properly on an ebony job without clear coating? If the fallboard is clear coated, will not it look a bit different from the case that is not? I understand your concerns about touch up, but I have not experienced problems in that regard. Mark Potter bases-loaded@juno.com On Mon, 20 Nov 2000 07:00:01 -0500 "gutlo" <gutlo@bestweb.net> writes: > > > ---------- > > From: bases-loaded@juno.com > > To: pianotech@ptg.org > > Subject: Re: Piano Finishes > > Date: Sunday, November 19, 2000 5:01 PM > > > > Terry - > > > > I have used Target Coatings Premium Spray Lacquer (PSL) on my last > 3 > > grands. I can whole-heartedly endorse it as a great WB finish. > In > > particular, an ebony job I did using their products (black > production WB > > lacquer and 3-4 coats PSL clear gloss) is the best looking ebony > job I > > have ever done, with as litle fuss as you can expect on a job like > that. > > I rubbed to satin/semi, but am told that, unlike many WB finishes, > the > > PSL also rubs to gloss beautifully. I found it to be very user > friendly, > > sprays much like NC lacquer, levels well, dries quickly without > the soft > > belly, sands and rubs wonderfully well, and is superior to NC > lacquer in > > durability and mar and chemical resistance. And the 100% burn-in > quality > > is a real plus, and is not time sensitive. In other words, you do > not > > have to recoat within a certain window to keep the burn-in > effective. > > > > They also have a finish that is very nice called Oxford Hybrid > Varnish, > > which is easily the warmest looking WB finish I have ever seen. > Somehow > > there is an emulsified tung oil in the finish that really warms > the look > > in a big way. There is a cross-linker available with this finish > that > > increases its durability considerably. I used it on an old > upright and > > it really had a nice heirloom or vintage look to it, similar in > apearance > > to an oil varnish, but is a WB and I sprayed it on. Very > forgiving > > finish and easy to use, but not appropriate when buffing to gloss. > It > > was probably the quickest route to a good looking finish that I > have > > experienced in a long time. > > > > I think Target Coatings is a quality supplier, and Jeff Weiss is > always > > willing to help out with any technical problems with his products. > Jeff > > Jewitt thinks highly of Target's products, too, and I have found > his > > opinions to be very trustworthy. In fact, last time I talked to > him > > (July 2000), he was completely phasing out his use of NC lacquer > because > > of how much he liked the PSL. > > > > That's high praise. > > > > Mark Potter > > bases-loaded@juno.com > > > > > > On Sun, 19 Nov 2000 10:48:16 -0500 "Farrell" > <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com> > > writes: > > > Well, here I sit boxed into refinishing (or making ill-fated > attempts > > > to) a > > > piano again. I am stuck on waterbase. I am eyeing OXFORD PREMIUM > > > > SPRAY > > > LACQUER (1000 Series) water-base finish by Target Coatings. Has > > > anyone tried > > > it? Two features it claims attracts my interest: 100% burn in, > so no > > > "witness lines" when flat-sanding final coat and ease of > > > flat-sanding/polishing - the big one being 100% burn-in. That is > > > > where I > > > have had problems in the past. Anyone???????? > > > > > > I haven't even started yet, and the desperation & out-of-control > > > > feeling is > > > already setting in :-(. > > > > > > Terry Farrell > > > Piano Tuning & Service > > > Tampa, Florida > > > mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com > > > > List, > > Why the need for clear over black to obtain ebony piano finish? Why > not > straight black, like nc lacquer? > > Clearcoat over black is a great idea, until you have to touch it up. > Then > you'll get that "floating" effect, which means if you (or a mover or > customer) scratch the lid, or heaven help you, the case, you would > have to > spray over the entire area to make a high quality repair. > > PianoLac has the same attributes as the Target coating, plus: > 1. No need for clear over black-just rub out the black. > 2. A sealer that doesn't raise the grain, has pore filling > qualities, and > can be sprayed as much as necessary to fill the pores with total > clarity. > 3. Gets its hardness without the use of crosslinkers. > > Beware of crosslinkers. They are usually isocyanates or aziridines, > both > of which are extremely toxic, even in small amounts. They are > particularly > dangerous because they are odorless. > > PianoLac is now "ready for prime time." I'd be happy to help anyone > get > going with a piano finishing project. > > Arthur Grudko 845-855-0996
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