Howdy, Iīve just dripped it in, until it the cavity wonīt take any more. When it starts to accumulate I stop. Of course if the pins arenīt all that loose to begin with, I donīt think pin tightener is necessarily the first step Iīd take. Others have more experience, Kristinn At 07:50 22.9.2000 -0400, you wrote: >Friends, > >I am still a little stymied on using CA on pinblocks. (Aren't we good at >pounding this subject to death?!) I only recently started doing this and have >done maybe three or four so far. > >I heard someone in a convention mini-technical say you only need three or four >drops; I think he said four. So I applied enough so I could see it wick >around >the entire pin. That used about 1/3 bottle and wasn't too successful. > >I also used an entire 2-oz. bottle on an old upright. I just kept going over >the pins until the bottle was empty. That covered all the pins twice and most >of them three times. When I went back to tune the piano a couple weeks later >they were so tight they felt like they would twist off! > >So I know my experience is limited, but it makes me wonder if two or three >bottles really do any more good than one. Is it too much of a good >thing? I do >feel that several drops aren't enough, unless the pins weren't all that >loose to >begin with. Comments? > >Regards, Clyde > > > >Farrell wrote: > > > I have used CA with good sucess in general. I glued a block in a cheap > grand > > (loose AND very jumpy pins) a couple weeks ago and it was my first total > > disaster with CA. A waste of time and glue (and her money). No beneficial > > effect at all. I ended up shimming 28 pins and told her that next time > there > > will likely be a few more. Shame, piano was recently restrung. Guess > the guy > > (or gal) didn't know tuning pins get loose. > > > > The few other times I sucessfully used CA, I have used 2 or 3 of the 2 oz. > > bottles - I gooped in in until it would not go in any more. Some recent > > posts suggested just a few drops is all that is needed. So this time I used > > less - about 1 oz. total. I wonder if that is why it did not work this > time. > > > > Terry Farrell > > Piano Tuning & Service > > Tampa, Florida > > mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Richard Brekne" <Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no> > > To: <pianotech@ptg.org> > > Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 8:41 AM > > Subject: Re: Dopey Tuning > > > > > Course there is pinblock dope and there is pinblock dope. Actually > the old > > Pin > > > tite and similiar products are quite different approaches from CA and > > Epoxy > > > methods and I am not sure the "dope" is the right word for these > latter. I > > never > > > had any good results from the old style of dope either and what you > > describe is > > > what I always ended up with.. stopped useing that kinda thing long time > > back > > > now. > > > > > > I have heard some say that applying CA to pinblocks that have been > treated > > thus > > > can greatly improve the situation, but CA is something I have very little > > > experience with so I will leave that to others to confirm or deny > > > > > > > > > Farrell wrote: > > > > > > > Well, last night I tuned my first (for sure) pin block doped piano. > 1926 > > > > Cable upright - much better than average condition - grandmother bought > > it > > > > new. Bass restrung about 15 years ago. The tuning pin collars were > > black, > > > > and some dark tarry-looking goop was on plate in tuning pin area > (likely > > > > doped at time of bass restring). And EVERY pin was REAL MUSHY! A bit > > hard to > > > > tune - seemed like you needed a new hammer technique. It felt like > > someone > > > > put a thin collar of neoprene around each tuning pin. Torque was > > typically > > > > pretty low, likely ranged from 20 to 50 inch-pounds (estimate). It just > > felt > > > > like notes were going to start creeping flat as I was driving home from > > the > > > > job. Is this a problem with doped pinblocks - creeping flat in short > > periods > > > > of time? > > > > > > > > Terry Farrell > > > > Piano Tuning & Service > > > > Tampa, Florida > > > > mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com > > > > > > -- > > > Richard Brekne > > > RPT, N.P.T.F. > > > Bergen, Norway > > > > > > > > >
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